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Little Grebe

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Posted by Andy Shepherd on March 20, 2010 at 2:51 PM
Little Grebe
Little Grebe, really liked the colours that are being reflected on the water and the pose of the grebe on this one.

Unfortunately the very harsh side lighting has blown the little yellow patch at the base of the bill, can anyone suggest a fix for this in CS2.

After Justin's comments on my last post re the sharpening, I've tried a little selective sharpening on the head.

Processed in DPP / CS2

7D, 500F4IS+1.4T/c, Gitzo, Wimberley

All comments welcome and thanks for looking

Andy... :smile:
Posted by Justin on March 20, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Hi Andy,
The colours in the water are a bit special here and they go particularly well with the grebes brown neck feathers. On my monitor it looks like the head could benefit from a little more sharpening, assuming of course, the original is sharp.
Regarding the yellow base of the bill. I'd convert one Raw file normally for everything but the yellow area. Convert another one for just the yellow area, reducing the exposure and or brightness untill that area's perfect. Open both images in Photoshop. Select, copy and paste the first Raw conversion (for the bird) onto the second one(for the yellow area). Add a layer mask, use a soft edged brush with the foreground colour set to black, to brush over just the yellow area, thus revealing the detail from the correctly exposed layer below. Finally flatten the layers and continue processing as normal.
To add to my previous post about the sharpening. I think that sometimes if you have a fine and highly detailed area in an image, such as the grass in your Snow Bunting image, applying the same amount of sharpening globally can often give the impression that certain less important areas of the image are sharper and more in focus than the slightly less detailed main subject, which of course they're not, they can just appear that way.
I quite often duplicate the background layer, apply sharpening to that, add a layer mask, then it's just a few seconds work to add a few strokes with a soft edged brush to either decrease the sharpening in some areas or to eliminate it completely, if desired.
I don't generally bother for a small 720 pixel jpeg, but find it's often worth the minimal extra time for a large jpeg or prior to printing.It also has the added bonus of not sharpening any noise, if a high ISO was unavoidable.
You probably know more about it than I do, but just thought I'd expand on it whilst waiting for my pasta to cook :biggrin:

Posted by Andy Shepherd on March 20, 2010 at 3:24 PM
To be honest Justin, the head of the grebe was a little soft to begin with. But because I liked the colours of the water so much I've tried to rescue an image that would have normally ended up in the recycle bin.

Also, thanks for the advice. Now if I only new how to put it into practice :jump: I can just about manage to adjust the levels, contrast, sat and sharpening and thats about it :biggrin:

Enjoy the pasta :toast:

Andy...
Posted by Karen Summers on March 20, 2010 at 4:08 PM
lovely image maybe just a little more room at the bottom of the reflection
Posted by John Robinson on March 20, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Very nice indeed.Love the water colour. Even dropping the gamma a bit seems to improve the head detail.
Cheers
JohnR
Posted by Tim Taylor on March 20, 2010 at 4:35 PM
Great colours and pose. Maybe the head could be a little sharper but it's still a great shot.

Tim :toast:
Posted by Maggie Campbell on March 20, 2010 at 5:15 PM
Most unusual colours in the water. Nicely captured image - minor nit covered. :wavey:
Posted by Andy Shepherd on March 20, 2010 at 5:37 PM

Hi Maggie,

The colours are from the orange pick up truck thats on site most of the time.

Andy...
Posted by David Taylor on March 20, 2010 at 6:11 PM
The colour reflected in the water complements the colour of the feathers in the bird's neck IMO. Very nice indeed.

:toast: :toast: :jump:
Posted by Craig Jones on March 20, 2010 at 6:58 PM
Works for me,love the composition and pose :wink: :wink: :wavey:
Posted by Bob Cox on March 21, 2010 at 4:46 AM
It’s easy to see why they get the name dab chick, they never look like adults. Nice picture with the right back ground it’s a pity it’s not pin sharp.

Bob.
Posted by Paul Rosser on March 21, 2010 at 4:53 AM
A beautiful image, well captured!
Regards,
Paul. :wavey:
Posted by Kim Connolly on March 21, 2010 at 1:14 PM
The colours and pose are beautiful, love it!
Posted by Philip Newman on March 21, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Overall a success but as you say head not critically sharp, love the colours in the water, thought it needed a slight CCW rotation. :toast: :toast:

Posted by Sandra Hendrikse on March 21, 2010 at 3:30 PM
The shot works for me. I really like the water colours and the pose.
Posted by Dave Bartlett on March 21, 2010 at 6:25 PM
Lovely colour palette and I like the head turn. Some good advice regarding the use of layers to optimise the problem area too.
Posted by Matt Cole on March 22, 2010 at 5:56 AM
the eye does look soft Andy, but I agree that the colours and pose are very nice.

Matt :toast:
Posted by Ian Macdermott on March 22, 2010 at 8:26 AM
A very nice shot Andy


nits already covered re sharpning and the water appears to be running up hill. :wink:
Posted by Andy Shepherd on March 22, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Cheers guys, thanks for the comments and advice :toast:

Andy... :smile:
Posted by Lee Newman on March 22, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Very nice pose, comp & colours, minor nit covered.

Lee
Posted by John Chapman on March 23, 2010 at 6:12 AM
Hi Andy, nice capture the water is beautiful the head as you say is not pin sharp but overall the pic. is good. :toast: