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Slav Grebe +REPOST

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Posted by Ian Butler on March 24, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Slav Grebe +REPOST
As most people who have photographed this little stunner have probably got full frame head shots, I thought I would post something a bit different.
After watching it for approx 2 days, I worked out that it was eating around 30-40 perch a day (lower estimate) and therefore has eaten around 400+ fish during its stay!! Where it puts them, I do not know but it sure can eat!!

More images on my diary pages.
Comments and crits welcome.

Canon 40D
Canon 500mm F4 with 1.4x TC
ISO 100
1/1000sec @ f/5.6
Posted by Dave Courtenay on March 24, 2010 at 11:52 AM
Nice comp-whats the red in the water as thats very distracting and spoils imo an otherwise very nice image

Dave
Posted by Ian Butler on March 24, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Thats interesting you say that Dave as it was a red life jacket on the oppposite shore and placed the grebe there as I though it added to the image. I've got plenty without the red so no biggy!! It will be interesting to see what others think. Thanks for being honest! :toast:
Posted by Tom Smit on March 24, 2010 at 12:28 PM
I'm not sure about the red. I tried to imagine it was sunlight but that does not work.
After looking a few minutes to this pictures I think I have to agree with Dave. It looks like an underwater eruption from some vulcano. The longer I look the more I agree with Dave.
Sorry Ian.
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Posted by John Chapman on March 24, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Hi Ian, for me I like this picture as is. :toast:
Posted by Cliff Young on March 24, 2010 at 12:54 PM
I side with Dave and Tom on the red patch - find it an unnatural distraction I'm afraid. The grebe also looks a bit soft on my monitor but it has been one of those trying days .............. :wink:
Posted by Ian Macdermott on March 24, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Hi Ian,

I am afraid that I echo Cliffs comments, except for the trying day part :biggrin:
Posted by David Taylor on March 24, 2010 at 1:26 PM
Full marks for trying something different within your trademark style. Perhaps if the bird had been sharper and slightly larger?

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Posted by Paul King on March 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM
Hi Ian, yep red is a real distracter..
Posted by Maggie Campbell on March 24, 2010 at 2:20 PM
Sorry Ian the red patch doesn't work for me either and the bird does look soft. :frown:
Posted by Philip Newman on March 24, 2010 at 2:44 PM
Ian, red reflection is distracting and would like grebe a wee bit sharper. :wavey: :wavey:

Phil
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on March 24, 2010 at 2:53 PM
'Nits' cover Ian, but it looks soft too, no real detail to me? Sorry :frown:

Hope you get better luck next time. :wavey:
Posted by Lewis Thomson on March 24, 2010 at 3:40 PM

Hi Ian,

I'm not a big fan of the reflected life ring either, but everything else I love! Great bird and great light with nice comp! I can't imagine a soft image would even reach your computer, so I suspect its just down to the image size with the bird being small in the frame. Just give it a little more usm for web display. Also, maybe a very small ccw rotation if I was ultra picky! :biggrin:

Cheers,

Lewis.
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Posted by Tom_W on March 24, 2010 at 3:43 PM
I would agree with the 'red' comments about but the grebe is a lovely specimen and I like the idea of the composition.
Posted by Ian Butler on March 24, 2010 at 3:56 PM
Thanks all for your comments. Very much appreciated. Bit of a marmite shot then! Interesting that it does look soft as it is saved at 100% with the save to web so must be due to compression. As Lewis says, soft shots will always find there way to the bin straight away. I've posted another shot from the session without the red in the picture!
Posted by Tom_W on March 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM
Much much better. I have always found that the eye in these grebes never really sharpens up well.
Posted by Ian Butler on March 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Thanks Tom. I agree, not sure what the eye does but Tufted Ducks are the same aswell. Glad this ones better. Comparing the two aswell the blacks seem a lot darker in the first one aswell. Must have had a processing brain wave or something! Cheers. :wink:
Posted by Marcus Conway on March 24, 2010 at 4:25 PM
The second one is a beauty :toast:
Posted by Karen Summers on March 24, 2010 at 5:10 PM
prefer the second one nice image I loved seeing and photographng them hope to see them in their summer plumage in Scotland
Posted by Maggie Campbell on March 24, 2010 at 5:11 PM
Really like the second image Ian. Very nice indeed. :wavey:
Posted by John Robinson on March 24, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Ian
Shot of bird I aint seen ,but I am affraid its a bit soft for me.
Only being honest which doesn't always go down well. :wink:
Cheers
JohnR
Posted by Andy Gregory on March 24, 2010 at 8:55 PM
I like both shots but think they would each benefit from having the bottom half of the image cropped off :toast:
Posted by Nigel Blake on March 25, 2010 at 1:47 AM
The second one is a cracker, composition and the background range of tones work for me, but the bird (at this size) needs a bit of careful selective sharpening!
Posted by Phil Mclean on March 25, 2010 at 7:56 AM
Hi Ian.I think I prefer the first one but maybe with the bird actually in the middle of the red reflection.So that the red is no longer a distraction but draws you straight into the bird.
There's always got to be one awkward so and so! :biggrin:

Phil.
Posted by Duncan Armour on March 25, 2010 at 2:08 PM
Much prefer the second shot as the red colour in the first just distracts. I also can't help feeling that the image is too tall - I'd like to see you lose just a little from the top and bottom to make the dimensions more comfortable.