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Laughing Gull?

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Posted by Luke Ormand on April 10, 2010 at 5:03 PM
Laughing Gull?
90% sure it's a laughing gull - but there's 10% that wonders if it's a black headed gull (which have been seen in the area - though not recently).

- Luke
Posted by Mia McPherson on April 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Luke,

I would say this is not a Laughing Gull, the bill is too small and the shape of the hood isn't right. The white nape would say Black-headed to me.
Posted by Luke Ormand on April 10, 2010 at 7:07 PM
The other option is Franklin's which would be quite rare for NYS - though it could get off course on its way up from South America. Here's a head-shot.

I have had 2 locals who are pretty skilled birders say it's Laughing, though they admit the bill length and incomplete hood don't match up.

- Luke
Posted by Mia McPherson on April 10, 2010 at 7:35 PM
Luke

I could be the hood on this bird just isn't as full as most Laughing Gulls, I looked through my Laughing gulls images and found one that does come close to yours. The eye ring certainly looks right

Posted by Luke Ormand on April 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM
Thanks Mia - your shot is prettier than mine! Albeit I found mine in a parking lot... :biggrin:
Posted by Michael Lotito on April 10, 2010 at 9:44 PM
Great find luke!
Posted by Jim DeWitt on April 10, 2010 at 11:54 PM
I think the bill is too heavy for Black-headed, Luke. My vote would be Laughing. Without the dark subterminal spot on the bill, I'm disinclined to say Franklin's.
Posted by Ron Bielefeld on April 11, 2010 at 4:47 PM
I say laughing. Looks a lot like images I have of laughing gulls from the east coast of FL.
Posted by Richard Ditch on April 11, 2010 at 5:34 PM
My gull skills aren't what they used to be after 16 years here in the mostly gull-less desert. But this isn't the mis-named Black-headed Gull - that has a dark chocolate brown head. It would be good if you had some shots of the upper and lower wingtips. I'd say this is a Laughing Gull with an incomplete hood.
Posted by Luke Ormand on April 11, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Thanks for everyones thoughts - looks like the consensus here and locally is Laughing Gull - still a decent find for this early in the year.

Posted by Jeff Loomis on April 11, 2010 at 9:58 PM
Hi Luke, my is for Laughing Gull as well. For reasons already stated, plus the wings are a darker gray creating more contrast against the body. This seems to fit Laughing as well. Nice images either way.
Posted by William Vrolyk on April 23, 2010 at 5:15 PM
With my Peterson Field Guide and the NG Field Guide to the Birds of Western North America in front of me, I'd say It is probably a laughing gull. The shape of the bill compared to the Franklin and Black-headed gulls convinces me. Also the Black-headed gull has a dark brown hood despite its name.

Will
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada