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Help with paper margins?

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Posted by David E Lester on May 8, 2010 at 10:28 PM
Hope somenone can get me on the right track. Canon support told me what I already knew, but did not help.

I want to print on some canon paper I have. both are 8.5x11 and are "Fine Art Paper Museum Etching" and "Fine Art Premium Matte".
I know you cannot print borderles on this type of paper but you can print to a "35mm margin". I also print using the Canon 9500 MKII.

My question is, how do you judge this or what crop setting to set to meet this margin factor? The ICC profile is preset.

My photos keep getting cropped, loosing some of the picture!

This may be simple, but darn if I can figure it out, I keep wasting paper and ink!

Thanks for any replys.

Dave
Posted by Randall Quon on May 8, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Do you have a "scale to fit" option in your print settings? This will shrink (or enlarge) the photo to fit whatever printable area is available. I'm also hoping you mean a 3.5mm margin, because 35mm is huge (~1-3/8").
Posted by David E Lester on May 8, 2010 at 11:54 PM
Thanks, for the reply, I looked on the package, it has for the top and botton, 35mm / 1.38 each and for the sides, 6.4mm / 0.24. I assume the 0.24 is 1/4in? and the 1.38 is between 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 inches. I do have scale to fit option. Maybe I forgot to check it, I'll try it again. Thanks
Posted by Preston Birdwell on May 9, 2010 at 12:28 AM
David,

You don't want the paper margins. What you want is the printable area that your printer supports. This info should be in the owner's manual, or online at Canon. A 35mm margin doesn't sound right at all. Honestly, I cannot imagine printer wasting a total of 2.75 inches of paper.

You should be able to scale your image using your photo editor so it will fit within the printable area of the paper. I routinely make make proof prints that are 7.75 wide x (whatever) on my Epson.

Note that if you use "scale to fit" your image will be distorted. This will happen because the ratio of length to width will no longer be constrained.

--P
Posted by Fred Stearns on May 9, 2010 at 12:46 AM
For what it's worth, I size the file for 11" on the long side and constrain proportions, which means that the short side is about 7 1/3.. Then I increase the canvas to 8 1/2" x 11". I print with no borders and all comes out just fine. Now, the paper isn't completely covered because the proportions of the the paper are wrong, but that can be trimmed off. Now, find anything for a 7 1/3" x 11" print without making something special yourself. Have fun!

By the way, I didn't like odd size and cropped the picture to 8 1/2" x 11" in the end. At least frames are available.
Posted by Wim Reyns on May 9, 2010 at 9:07 AM
David, to get around the 35mm margin, you can set your printer to "matte photo paper", disable all color correction in the printer driver, and set photoshop to use the "Canon museum etching profile".
That way you will be able to print larger without those margins.

Wim
Posted by David E Lester on May 10, 2010 at 4:48 PM
Thanks for the replys, I'll digest this info and see what happens? I have always cropped my images for the size I want to print. Have not used the resized option much, never had a problem until I bought some speciality paper.

David