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Color Problem

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Posted by Mohsen Al-Dajani on May 27, 2010 at 12:36 AM
Hi there,
I have a problem with printer/Photoshop. When I want to print, I know that I should choose "Photoshop manages color" in the color handling menu, but I discovered that if I select "Photoshop manage color" or "No color management" my printing results doesn't change. What could be the problem? Any idea please?
Posted by Keith Bauer on May 27, 2010 at 9:03 AM
Have you download and selected the ICC profile for the Paper / Ink combination that you are using? You also didn't say what printer you are using. That could help with advice.
Posted by Mohsen Al-Dajani on May 27, 2010 at 9:05 AM
Yes I did select the profile, in fact it is a custom profile where I printed a target, and send it then I got a profile for my Epson 2400 printer, Epson luster paper, and a calibrated screen.
Posted by Guy Tal on May 27, 2010 at 9:19 AM
Mohsen, can you describe your process from beginning to end (from raw conversion to printing)? Also, what are your color settings in Photoshop (working space)?

If the results are identical, I suspect the file may have been converted to the output profile prior to printing, which is redundant if you ask Photoshop to do the conversion during printing.

Another potential culprit may be the printer driver. Did you make sure to turn off color management?

Guy
Posted by Mohsen Al-Dajani on May 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Guy,
1) I open my RAW file through capture NX, set my white point, sharpen @ 25-30, then select "open with" to open the file in Photoshop
2) In PS, I start with layer adj fixing color correction, Level, curve, saturation
3) flatten layers, re-size image (re-sample is unchecked)
4) Select print, select PS manage color, select my profile in the printer profile menu
5) click on "page setup">set my paper type (I use Epson luster), best quality, size
6) click on Advance> select ICM, and check "No color adjustment"
7) PRINT

I use:
Photoshop CS3
Epson 2400
Spyder2 for my screen calibration.
Epson Premium Photo Luster Paper

Sorry for my late reply I was away. Hope this will help identify the problem of my screen/printer color difference.
Posted by Bill Brennan on May 27, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Mohsen, two items: what is your color profile for PS and for Epson? and are you using the same bit depth for PS and Epson 8 or 16?

Another thought, are you making a test print? After a test print or prints, you can make adjustments to correct areas that are not satisfactory.

Another thought, have you tried checking your inks as the heads might be a problem.

Bill Brennan
Posted by PHEROLD on May 27, 2010 at 1:38 PM
In situations like this, it is sometimes helpful in troubleshooting to substitute a profile that you know is "different" so you can confirm that the color is not changing. We have a group of test profiles that would work well for this. In fact, if you substitute our stunt printer profile in your workflow, you should get a different colored picture with each rendering intent that you choose. If you don't get any change at all, then you know something in your workflow is not using the profile that is in place.

http://www.colorwiki.com/wiki/Stunt_Profiles

Pat Herold
Chromix Tech Support
www.chromix.com
Posted by Mohsen Al-Dajani on May 27, 2010 at 2:36 PM
My color space is Adobe 1998. I would like to inform you guys that the color I am getting is not necessarily odd or wired, it is not accurate. Means what is on my screen is different than from what I see on my prints. What makes me so frustrated is that when I select "Photoshop manage color" or "No color management" the result I get is the same, from the printer. I simulate the situation with a new post of an image.
Posted by Mark Kraus on May 27, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Are you viewing the soft proof of your photo before printing. If not it may be printing the way it should.
Before printing in PS go to View, Proof setup, Custom. Select your profile of the printer and paper and view your photo now.
Does it look more like you print? You should also check the Gamut Warning to make sure the color is going to print right for the profile.
Mark K