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Chasm Stars (with Repost)

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Posted by Erik Stensland on June 8, 2010 at 3:22 PM
Chasm Stars (with Repost)
Here's a shot from 3am this morning in Chasm Meadow. About a minute after I took this shot I was swallowed by clouds and couldn't see more than 2 feet in front of me. I had to abandon my sunrise plans but I'll try again another day. For those who are curious, this image is a composite of one 30" photo and one 90" photo. I need to go back and re-process it. Blending in PS Elements is a skill I need to work on. :rolleyes:
Posted by Joshua Hardin on June 8, 2010 at 3:35 PM
Awesome. Blend actually looks pretty nice IMO. Those stars look sharp too. A little bit of color/chroma noise to remove, but that's normal in night exposures and the luminance noise doesn't look bad at all.

Did you make it to Chasm Lake and how much was it thawed if you did, btw?
Posted by Jack Garrett on June 8, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Man, that is some view of the milky way! Great capture Erik.
Posted by Erik Stensland on June 8, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Thanks Joshua. I'll fix those things. I didn't go to Chasm Lake as I was heading somewhere else for sunrise but from what I hear it is still pretty solidly frozen.
Posted by Joshua Hardin on June 8, 2010 at 3:41 PM
Thanks for the update Erik. Sorry you didn't get the sunrise you were looking for today, but I still think this is pretty nice as it is! :toast:
Posted by Jim Casteel on June 8, 2010 at 3:45 PM
Excellent work Erik! Stars are awful tricky to get to stay still. I think your blend looks good. I need to do more of these up in the park!
Posted by Koveh Tavakkol on June 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Erik, this looks really good and I think the park as mentioned above is a great location for you to explore future opportunities like this. If I may inquire, what ISO did you have to use on the 30 second exposure to get the milky way to show through?
Posted by Erik Stensland on June 8, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Because all I have are F4 lenses this was shot at ISO 2500 so I probably can't print this any larger than 5x7. One of these days I'm going to get a good 1.4 lens so that I can actually create prints from scenes like this.
Posted by Tien-Chien Chen on June 8, 2010 at 4:32 PM
This is AWESOME Erik!!
Posted by Scott Bacon on June 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM
Cool! :cool:
Posted by Brian Jackson on June 8, 2010 at 5:13 PM
Great shot. Love the Milky Way.
Posted by Dan Walters on June 8, 2010 at 8:29 PM
That looks incredible! Very dramatic image!
Posted by Paul Wegemann on June 8, 2010 at 8:38 PM
My first thought was that I want to see this large, then I read the comments. This is awesome, Erik. Hurry up and get some 1.4 lenses!
Posted by Charles Caudle on June 8, 2010 at 8:47 PM
This is really cool. It was a good thing I had my GPS on my phone in the day light when I did this trip, but how the heck did you make it back down while it was dark and cloudy??? I was driving down to work this morning and was drooling over the clouds that were in that area at sunrise.

Posted by Morris McClung on June 9, 2010 at 12:04 AM
Very cool. Your signature great comp.
Posted by John Mumaw on June 9, 2010 at 5:30 AM
One of the better locations I've seen for use with starfields. Real nice composition as Morris noted.
Blend looks good, though you may wish to darken the foreground so it doesn't appear so much as a composite.
Did you experiment with lower ISO speeds for your 30 sec. exposures?
Posted by bill meikle on June 9, 2010 at 6:28 AM
Erik, what were your camera settings? Great image.
Posted by Stan Rose on June 9, 2010 at 6:35 AM
Cool! Glad you got something out of the venture. Rather than darken the foreground, i think i might darken the sky, so the space is more black than green.
Posted by Erik Stensland on June 9, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Here's another attempt using the input from John and Stan. Does this look a little more realistic or does it loose too much of its punch?
Posted by Bill Pelzmann on June 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Erik, I'm still not sure that I like the green sky. Just wondering if that is an effect you want to keep?
Have you tried just desaturating the green?
Posted by Jason J. Hatfield on June 9, 2010 at 5:35 PM
I like the stars better but I agree about the green sky. I need to find me some milky way!
Posted by John Mumaw on June 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Bingo!
I like the rework very much.
Seems to me that you were able to get most of the green out of the sky.
What little is left doesn't bother me. However, reopening the original starfield file in Elements and choosing a Tungsten WB (with tweaks, of course) may give you a better and/or more cooler version.
Again, congratulations on getting this successful shot!
Posted by Jack Garrett on June 9, 2010 at 8:53 PM
I agree about the green but I like the first shot better...the milky way really stands out in that one.
Posted by Brett Deacon on June 9, 2010 at 10:44 PM
Great shot(s) Erik! I really appreciate your command of the technical issues involved in taking a shot like this. Did you have at least a bit of moon to help light the foreground?
Posted by Erik Stensland on June 10, 2010 at 8:41 AM
Charles, to be completely honest, because of the thick fog I completely lost the trail on my way down. I had to navigate by the sound of the stream in the distance and finally broke through the fog and back onto the trail way down in Goblin's Forest! Fortunately I know the contour of the mountain pretty well or who knows where I would have come out.

Brett, you are right. A sliver of moon broke through the clouds for the foreground shot and that really helped a lot!

As for the green cast, I think I've managed to get rid of a lot of it it. Thanks for all of your input. I really appreciate it! You can find the final version on my website's home page. http://imagesofrmnp.com
Posted by Jack Garrett on June 10, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Erik, I just looked at this image on your home page and when you view this with the gray desktop background, it really pops....nice, nice, nice! Maybe we should get this forum to go with gray backgrounds :smile:
Posted by John Mumaw on June 10, 2010 at 8:04 PM
Looks great, Erik! :toast:
Posted by Ken Wyatt on June 10, 2010 at 8:42 PM
I always have trouble getting sharp focus on stars at night - usually resorting to trial & error. How did you manage that? Nice work!

Ken
Posted by Erik Stensland on June 10, 2010 at 8:59 PM
Ken, I just set my focus to infinity using my headlamp. It's not perfect but gets me pretty close.
Posted by Stan Rose on June 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM
Yes, the final version looks terrific! :toast:
Posted by Mike McNeill on June 12, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Great shot Eric. Very nicely done! :toast: