I try and post only new stuff, but recently I found myself going through some older transparencies and found this one that I never processed.
Captured a couple of summers ago on the Sonora Pass. Lupine, Corn lilly and I think willow or something, not sure about the bush in the bg.
Anyway, thought I would share. Comments always welcome.
Chamonix, Nikkor 300mm, V100f
Thanks,
Lon
ps. A side question. Now that I've posted that thread in the Landscape forum, which gallery would you post this in?????
Posted by Robert Dayton on June 29, 2010 at 12:12 AM
Well lit with a variety of shapes and colors--green of the Corn Lily and the
Lupine stand out. I suppose that now would be a good time to go to the
Sonora Pass to see such scenics. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Steve Sieren on June 29, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Isn't there a sort of limit of space inside of a photograph for it to be placed in ESS? I always go backwards dig through old stuff!
I'm a bit lost with your comment... could you clarify what you mean by "space inside of a photograph?"
Confused in Livermore...
Posted by Steve Sieren on June 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM
If a macro shot only shows about 4 inches of space it wouldn't meet the requirements for ESS? I don't know if there are any requirements for ESS other then obvious things. If a macro shot had the sun in the background the space would be infinite and probably could be placed in ESS. That might be confusing to some but it's a macro landscape.
Posted by Lon Overacker on June 29, 2010 at 11:33 AM
Steve,
Of course this is only my interpretation because the guidelines are vague (on purpose,) but the 4" guideline is defined for the Macro Gallery, not ES&S. In other words, if it's bigger than 4", technically it doesn't qualify for Macro. However, the opposite is not necessarily true. In other words, a 2" subject does NOT necessarily disqualify it from ES&S. It would only be more "appropriate" in Macro.
Does that make sense?
Lon
Posted by John W. Wall on June 29, 2010 at 11:57 AM
ESS or Flora, I would think, although the Flora gallery seems mostly devoted to garden cultivars rather than natural or "wild" flowers.
Posted by Steve Sieren on June 29, 2010 at 12:24 PM
No it doesn't make sense at all! We're talking about the subject, I thought it was the scene in general. If someone shoots a 2 inch flower with the background bocca'd it's still fine to place in ESS? Or will it get moved? If the background is semi sharp and somewhat extensive I could see why it would stay.
I do like that backlit lupine in the upper right corner.
Posted by Derek Sedillo on June 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM
This is definately not macro and probably fits either in ESS or Flora. But I agree that these rules should be interpreted somewhat loosely as there can be grey lines and cross over. For example a beautiful landscape with a distant, partially visible man made trail. Or abstract techniques using zoom focusing of subjects such as trees, leaves, water, etc... which could fall into ESS or Photo Art.
Steve, I think we're getting closer to being on the same page... I think. It's the subject, not the background. Technically, any "macro" image with the sky as a background could be considered infinitely big.... You can imagine a cone emanating from your sensor/film plane that goes ever-expanding out towards infinity. And of course there's pollutants in the air and therefore it should ultimately go in Man & Nature.... right?
Anyway, I'm not making this any easier and just extending what would probably become a circular discussion.
So, if the image was captured with a Macro lens set to infinity it could be either Macro, Flora, or ES&S ? Unless of course while viewing it on a light table with a loupe you could see a ground squirrel in the background, then it could also be useful in Fauna too. To complicate things further, if the ground squirrel was traveling through the area with a backpack on, then it will fit Man In Nature also.
Posted by Derek Sedillo on June 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM
BTW, nice image, but I find the backlit corn lily leaves a bit distracting. The flowers look good as highlights, but the lily leaves constantly pull my eyes back to them.
Discussion
13 repliesCaptured a couple of summers ago on the Sonora Pass. Lupine, Corn lilly and I think willow or something, not sure about the bush in the bg.
Anyway, thought I would share. Comments always welcome.
Chamonix, Nikkor 300mm, V100f
Thanks,
Lon
ps. A side question. Now that I've posted that thread in the Landscape forum, which gallery would you post this in?????
Lupine stand out. I suppose that now would be a good time to go to the
Sonora Pass to see such scenics. Thanks for sharing.
I'm a bit lost with your comment... could you clarify what you mean by "space inside of a photograph?"
Confused in Livermore...
Of course this is only my interpretation because the guidelines are vague (on purpose,) but the 4" guideline is defined for the Macro Gallery, not ES&S. In other words, if it's bigger than 4", technically it doesn't qualify for Macro. However, the opposite is not necessarily true. In other words, a 2" subject does NOT necessarily disqualify it from ES&S. It would only be more "appropriate" in Macro.
Does that make sense?
Lon
I do like that backlit lupine in the upper right corner.
Derek
Anyway, I'm not making this any easier and just extending what would probably become a circular discussion.
Thanks for the comments folks.
Lon
Good one Paul!!! Perfectly illogically logical.