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Posted by Lon Overacker on June 28, 2010 at 7:46 PM
I try and post only new stuff, but recently I found myself going through some older transparencies and found this one that I never processed.

Captured a couple of summers ago on the Sonora Pass. Lupine, Corn lilly and I think willow or something, not sure about the bush in the bg.

Anyway, thought I would share. Comments always welcome.

Chamonix, Nikkor 300mm, V100f

Thanks,
Lon

ps. A side question. Now that I've posted that thread in the Landscape forum, which gallery would you post this in????? :rolleyes:
Posted by Robert Dayton on June 29, 2010 at 12:12 AM
Well lit with a variety of shapes and colors--green of the Corn Lily and the
Lupine stand out. I suppose that now would be a good time to go to the
Sonora Pass to see such scenics. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by Steve Sieren on June 29, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Isn't there a sort of limit of space inside of a photograph for it to be placed in ESS? I always go backwards dig through old stuff!
Posted by Lon Overacker on June 29, 2010 at 1:04 AM
Steve,

I'm a bit lost with your comment... could you clarify what you mean by "space inside of a photograph?"

Confused in Livermore... :confused:
Posted by Steve Sieren on June 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM
If a macro shot only shows about 4 inches of space it wouldn't meet the requirements for ESS? I don't know if there are any requirements for ESS other then obvious things. If a macro shot had the sun in the background the space would be infinite and probably could be placed in ESS. That might be confusing to some but it's a macro landscape.
Posted by Lon Overacker on June 29, 2010 at 11:33 AM
Steve,

Of course this is only my interpretation because the guidelines are vague (on purpose,) but the 4" guideline is defined for the Macro Gallery, not ES&S. In other words, if it's bigger than 4", technically it doesn't qualify for Macro. However, the opposite is not necessarily true. In other words, a 2" subject does NOT necessarily disqualify it from ES&S. It would only be more "appropriate" in Macro.
Does that make sense?

Lon
Posted by John W. Wall on June 29, 2010 at 11:57 AM
ESS or Flora, I would think, although the Flora gallery seems mostly devoted to garden cultivars rather than natural or "wild" flowers.
Posted by Steve Sieren on June 29, 2010 at 12:24 PM
No it doesn't make sense at all! We're talking about the subject, I thought it was the scene in general. If someone shoots a 2 inch flower with the background bocca'd it's still fine to place in ESS? Or will it get moved? If the background is semi sharp and somewhat extensive I could see why it would stay.
I do like that backlit lupine in the upper right corner.
Posted by Derek Sedillo on June 29, 2010 at 12:50 PM
This is definately not macro and probably fits either in ESS or Flora. But I agree that these rules should be interpreted somewhat loosely as there can be grey lines and cross over. For example a beautiful landscape with a distant, partially visible man made trail. Or abstract techniques using zoom focusing of subjects such as trees, leaves, water, etc... which could fall into ESS or Photo Art.

Derek
Posted by Paul Breitkreuz on June 29, 2010 at 1:29 PM
ES&S..... :biggrin:
Posted by Lon Overacker on June 29, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Steve, I think we're getting closer to being on the same page... I think. It's the subject, not the background. Technically, any "macro" image with the sky as a background could be considered infinitely big.... You can imagine a cone emanating from your sensor/film plane that goes ever-expanding out towards infinity. And of course there's pollutants in the air and therefore it should ultimately go in Man & Nature.... right? :biggrin:

Anyway, I'm not making this any easier and just extending what would probably become a circular discussion.

Thanks for the comments folks.

Lon
Posted by Paul Breitkreuz on June 29, 2010 at 3:44 PM
So, if the image was captured with a Macro lens set to infinity it could be either Macro, Flora, or ES&S ? Unless of course while viewing it on a light table with a loupe you could see a ground squirrel in the background, then it could also be useful in Fauna too. To complicate things further, if the ground squirrel was traveling through the area with a backpack on, then it will fit Man In Nature also. :jump:
Posted by Derek Sedillo on June 29, 2010 at 11:09 PM
:biggrin: :biggrin: :toast: :jump:
Good one Paul!!! Perfectly illogically logical. :wink:
Posted by Harley Goldman on July 3, 2010 at 9:11 AM
BTW, nice image, but I find the backlit corn lily leaves a bit distracting. The flowers look good as highlights, but the lily leaves constantly pull my eyes back to them.