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Which Tern is right?

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Posted by Stephen Kaluski on July 14, 2010 at 5:55 AM
Which Tern is right?
Everything seems to be fledging and growing fast it appears and these guys are no exception. Shot the other day, this one was making too many demands on the parents and finally decided to take a break from squawking.

I know some will prefer the grass head not to be in, but there was no way of removing it in the location, nor I feel, inclined to do it PP as this is the environment it was set in and as shot, so feel it should stay in. :smile:

Would like to know if this is an Arctic or Common Tern chic?

Thanks
Steve

MKIII 500f/4 f/4 1/1250 ISO200 (FF)
Posted by Robert Lawrence on July 14, 2010 at 6:10 AM
Hi Steve,
can't help you on the ID I'm afraid but I'm sure someone will. OOF grass is a bit distracting, though not necessarily enough to spoil the image and I can fully understand any reluctance to remove it. Great detail, perch and background but if I'm honest I don't find the head on look very attractive on this one. From the little experience I have it is usually only the predatory birds with forward facing binocular vision that really suits a direct 'face the front look'.
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on July 14, 2010 at 6:17 AM
I know what you mean Rob, just liked the 'head angle', slightly twisted with a slight highlight in the left eye to view. It's all subjective I guess. More might follow at some point. :biggrin:

cheers
Steve :wavey:
Posted by Phil Mclean on July 14, 2010 at 7:04 AM
The colourful detail through the head and back are very nice.I like the head on pose and think the orange V shape around the mouth area,probably helps in this respect.The rock and background are also good but I don't like the grasses too much.

Phil. :toast:
Posted by Andy Astbury on July 14, 2010 at 8:03 AM
Well I'd be pleased with it Curly, and the grass wouldn't bother me at all because it's roughly pointing at the subject, and it's fairly colour neutral.

It catches my attention because of the 'abnormal' head position, and its executed to perfection.

I suppose I could nit pick and say it's all a tad central for me...!!
Posted by Shaun Simpson on July 14, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Yes you do notice the grass but it does not spoil what is a lovely image, well done :toast: :toast:
Posted by Dale Sutton on July 14, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Hi Steve a cracking little shot, I dont dout you didnt want the grass there but hey what can you do!
Dale :toast: :toast:
Posted by Mark Davies on July 14, 2010 at 12:13 PM
tis a fine shot bud ,eyes on third suits me.
Posted by Brett Lewis on July 14, 2010 at 1:22 PM
It is a fine shot but I do find the grass a little distracting. I would also like to see more of the eyes..

Brett :toast:
Posted by Phil Shaw on July 14, 2010 at 2:37 PM
Given the leg length (left leg) and the amount of brown on the mantle, I think this is probably a Common Tern. Bill length/shape would have been the key feature for me but its not really possible to discern from this angle.

I quite like this image, both the subject and the setting, but if I was going to try to make a print of this, I think I would try to remove the heads of yorkshire fog (grass). The colour also seems a little muted on my screen. I think the lichen on the rock is Xanthoria and it is
usually much brighter and more orange than I am seeing it. Brett's comment about the eyes is also something to think about. Again, if I were going to make a print of this I would attempt to generate greater definition and contrast around the eyes. I know you would rather be out taking photographs than sat behind a keyboard, so I'm happy for you to ignore these comments :smile:
Posted by Austin Thomas on July 15, 2010 at 2:36 AM
I cannot help with the ID Steve but it is very well processed and a high quality image.
I would have preferred no grass in an ideal world.

Cheers

Austin
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on July 15, 2010 at 2:51 AM
Thanks guys for the feedback.

Phil appreciate the ID, probably a posting in the near future will reconfirm it. The day as usual was overcast, with rain threatening hence the muted colours, which may go to explain the lichen colour, but it looks OK based on my recollection, I think. As the eyes were more in shade, plus with the almost black markings it is very difficult to get a clear distinction, even with adult birds unless you are using fill-in flash I feel.

Phil, any 'constructive' comments are always welcome, good or bad, so I won't ignore your comments. :smile:

Cheers Austin.

Steve :wavey:
Posted by keith mitchell on July 15, 2010 at 3:01 AM
What's with the grass? superb image.
:toast: :toast: :toast:
Keith.
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on July 15, 2010 at 3:12 AM
What's with the grass?

Sorry Keith, can you expand please? :confused:

Steve :smile:
Posted by keith mitchell on July 15, 2010 at 3:47 PM
Hi Steve.
Not making myself very clear it's sush a fine image and the bit of grass is neither here nor there,sorry about that :redface:
Keith.
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on July 15, 2010 at 3:57 PM
No worries Keith, just wondered what you meant, no need for any red face. :wink:

Steve :wavey:
Posted by Stephen Kaluski on July 17, 2010 at 3:03 AM
Thank you.