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Hawk ID Help Requested

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Posted by Don R. Millbranth on July 21, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Hawk ID Help Requested
I apologize for the quality of the image. The image was taken through a door glass and porch screen. The hawk didn't hang around very long.
However, I would appreciate any ID help offered.

Thanks,
Don :wavey:
Posted by June Marie Wingert on July 21, 2010 at 11:22 AM
Looks like a gosshawk to me, I could be wrong or I could be right
Posted by June Marie Wingert on July 21, 2010 at 1:52 PM
I checked with the veterinarian I worked with, he said its a gosshawk, I guessed right.
Posted by Nate Chappell on July 21, 2010 at 2:09 PM
It looks like a Cooper's Hawk to me, definetly not a Northern Goshawk, although they are in the same genus.
Posted by Luke Ormand on July 21, 2010 at 2:16 PM
I'm with Nate - my first impression was Cooper's
Posted by Jim DeWitt on July 21, 2010 at 2:31 PM
I agree with Nate; I'd expect a white eyebrow in the Northern Goshawk. I'll remind everyone again that when you ask for help with an ID it helps a lot if you tell us where and when you saw the bird...
Posted by Don R. Millbranth on July 21, 2010 at 3:15 PM
Jim, et al:

My error, I should have mentioned it was in north-central Alabama.

Sorry,
Don
Posted by David Graham on July 24, 2010 at 4:48 PM
Given the height and width of the cut grass the hawk is standing inin, II suggest that ot is too small even for a male Coopers and is thus a sharp-shinned hawk

Dave Graham
East River, SD
Posted by Calvin Barchus on July 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM
I believe the black cap indicates Coopers...
Posted by Don R. Millbranth on July 30, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Thanks to one and all. I believe the votes for a Coopers Hawk are in the majority.

Thanks again,

Don :wavey:
Posted by David Graham on August 2, 2010 at 8:38 PM
The "dark cap" of a sharpie is indistinguishable from that of a cooper's, and its "darkness" is quite variable in both species.

And "majority rules" applies to politics. Taxonomic accuracy depends upon objective criteria.

Dave Graham
Posted by David Graham on August 3, 2010 at 8:37 AM
One more observation: the rhinotheca (upper beak) is proportionately smaller in sharpies than in Cooper's. This bird's is relatively small and delicate compared with the more stout and sturdy bill of a Cooper's.

Dave Graham
Posted by Brian Gatlin on August 3, 2010 at 11:20 AM
Dave, I believe the reference to the dark cap here refers to the way the Cooper's Hawk has a dark cap which contrasts with its pale nape (as here) whereas the Sharp-shinned has a dark cap and a dark nape. I'd lean towards a Cooper's here, but wouldn't mind seeing a shot of the legs and tail.