Just wondering if you all think this photo is more Photo Art than ES&S before I post it in the general galleries.
Its of an icelandic poppy amongst fireweed. The fireweed was very pink and purple and I felt it overpowered the whole scene so I desaturated it some. Just wondering what you think?
4x5, 150mm, Fuji Provia, around mid day.
Posted by Steve Sieren on July 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Youseff, I like it it this way but do feel it to be more on the art side. Maybe sliding the vibrance slider to left instead of the saturation slider might create a more subtle effect? Maybe you'll get complimentary colors that way?
Youssef, I find the desaturation looks a little odd to my eye. The color seems strange to me. Without the original, it is hard to say which looks better. Have you tried burning the background rather than tweaking the saturation?
I might go back and re-work this one. The background fireweed is so pink and magenta that is was overpowering the whole scene. The poppy got lost. The funny thing is it looked fine when I photographed it. Maybe I need to re-scan as well.
First, to answer the Photo Art question, personally I would call it Photo Art. And as a moderator, these images are the most difficult to assess. In fact, it's probably more qualified for Flora than ES&S. But I also probably wouldn't move the image since we haven't been moving things like camera blur image to Photo Art - and I think they should be.
Photo Art because to me it reminds me of hand tinting that is done with b&w prints as an artistic rendition... but that's just my thoughts on the subject.
I like the image, but agree the colors just don't seem to fit. The poppy looks more red than I'm used to - but then again you mentioned it's an Icelandic poppy and not a CA Poppy, so I'm sure the color is probably more accurate than I'm thinking.
Even without seeing the original, I can believe that the background flowers/color were perhaps overwhelming for the poppy. Not only the colors, but also the texture and details are competing a bit with the poppy. Perhaps if you softened the background with some blur?
I do think this is a very workable scene though with lots of possibilities to take this in many directions.
Thanks for your input. These poppies are so red, that I have trouble scanning the film and keeping the red as it is. They just defy EktaSpace, which is supposed to contain all the possible colors in slide film. Its possible the scanner. Also thanks for some of the suggestions regarding blurring. I tried to photograph it with as wide as an aperture as I felt I could and still get the whole poppy in focus. Let me re-work it.
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6 repliesIts of an icelandic poppy amongst fireweed. The fireweed was very pink and purple and I felt it overpowered the whole scene so I desaturated it some. Just wondering what you think?
4x5, 150mm, Fuji Provia, around mid day.
First, to answer the Photo Art question, personally I would call it Photo Art. And as a moderator, these images are the most difficult to assess. In fact, it's probably more qualified for Flora than ES&S. But I also probably wouldn't move the image since we haven't been moving things like camera blur image to Photo Art - and I think they should be.
Photo Art because to me it reminds me of hand tinting that is done with b&w prints as an artistic rendition... but that's just my thoughts on the subject.
I like the image, but agree the colors just don't seem to fit. The poppy looks more red than I'm used to - but then again you mentioned it's an Icelandic poppy and not a CA Poppy, so I'm sure the color is probably more accurate than I'm thinking.
Even without seeing the original, I can believe that the background flowers/color were perhaps overwhelming for the poppy. Not only the colors, but also the texture and details are competing a bit with the poppy. Perhaps if you softened the background with some blur?
I do think this is a very workable scene though with lots of possibilities to take this in many directions.
Lon
Thanks for your input. These poppies are so red, that I have trouble scanning the film and keeping the red as it is. They just defy EktaSpace, which is supposed to contain all the possible colors in slide film. Its possible the scanner. Also thanks for some of the suggestions regarding blurring. I tried to photograph it with as wide as an aperture as I felt I could and still get the whole poppy in focus. Let me re-work it.