Posted by Greg Maklae on August 25, 2010 at 7:30 AM
Again, this morning I looked at the ES&S gallery, and for the first 8 posting, the comment rate was only 2%. I'm sure we can all spare 5 minutes a day to comment on your 2 or 3 favorite postings. How can ideas be exchanged and we all become better photographers if apathy is king?
Posted by Bill Chambers on August 25, 2010 at 8:07 AM
This seems to be a well beaten mule Greg that comes around a least 2-3 times a year. I agree, it doesn't take very long to make a short observation or two. Let's all jump in there folks!
Posted by Stan Rose on August 25, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Amen
Posted by Luke Ormand on August 25, 2010 at 12:42 PM
I agree, BUT, keep in mind that ESS is the most popular for not just NPN members but for non-members as well. A lot of those hits are the drooling public - I used to be one of them.
Posted by Bill Maile on August 25, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Another thing is, I know in my case I was very reluctant to comment at first, but very eager to post images and get feedback. So I started way in the hole as far as the numbers go, I'm trying to comment more and more and make the numbers less skewed. It's a comfort level thing now for me.
Posted by Carol Hyman on August 25, 2010 at 1:33 PM
Hear! Hear! And it's all galleries, not just ESS. Making comments and asking questions is the way to learn, and yes, Bill, we're beating a dead horse or mule or whatever, but we have to remember that NPN is a pool of rotating photographers with new people coming in as well as folks who have been around a while. As you've already implied, a reminder doesn't hurt.
And Luke, you too are right. Hopefully, the adoring and drooling public does visit; however, simply take a look at the ratio of comments to posted photos does tell us that some people are mostly posting and rarely commenting.
I agree, Let's jump into the fray, everybody It's the best way to learn and grow and develop.
Carol
Posted by Howard Cihak on August 25, 2010 at 2:06 PM
O.K., I guess it's my turn to play "the dummy." What's "ES&S?"
Posted by Keith Bauer on August 25, 2010 at 2:22 PM
O.K., I guess it's my turn to play "the dummy." What's "ES&S?"
The participation rate seems to vary in different galleries. There are quite high comment rates in Flora, Avian and Fauna but low in ES&S and macro. Not sure about the other galleries. It would be an interesting social science project to look at the reasons for differences?
It's not the amount of comments you make, it's the quality of those comments that makes a difference.
Ronnie G.
Posted by Peter Conway on August 26, 2010 at 8:52 AM
I think both the number and the quality of comments make a difference. I know I appreciate the thoughtful comments that clearly relate to the specifics of the image the most. On the other had I think it is appropriate, especially on an image that has already received a large number of comments, to simply make a more generic comment such as "this is beautiful".
Even a quick generic comment lets the poster know that you looked at the image and reacted to it, which is better than no post at all.
Those posters that take the time to truly evaluate each image and make thoughtful comments are the stars of NPN. They are the reason to participate, and I believe all of us hold them in the highest esteem.
Posted by Barbara Graham on September 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Peter's last paragraph takes my breath away because it is so true for me. And Bill Maile's comments are true for me, also. I'm still very far away from a comfort level that would allow me to say much more than that something is beautiful or that I like a respost better because.
I would not be able to work through these initial stages in my development if it were not for the posters to whom Peter refers, and the more I work through my initial development the sooner I'll hopefully have a comfort level that allows me to actually critique someone else's work rather than my own. But what I am receiving from you all I most definitely want to pay back and pay forward as soon as I can.
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11 repliesAnd Luke, you too are right. Hopefully, the adoring and drooling public does visit; however, simply take a look at the ratio of comments to posted photos does tell us that some people are mostly posting and rarely commenting.
I agree, Let's jump into the fray, everybody
Carol
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Ronnie G.
Even a quick generic comment lets the poster know that you looked at the image and reacted to it, which is better than no post at all.
Those posters that take the time to truly evaluate each image and make thoughtful comments are the stars of NPN. They are the reason to participate, and I believe all of us hold them in the highest esteem.
I would not be able to work through these initial stages in my development if it were not for the posters to whom Peter refers, and the more I work through my initial development the sooner I'll hopefully have a comfort level that allows me to actually critique someone else's work rather than my own. But what I am receiving from you all I most definitely want to pay back and pay forward as soon as I can.