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Conditions for fog-filled canyons? Stan?

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Posted by Doug Koepsel on November 21, 2010 at 12:17 PM
What conditions may be used to predit when a canyon like the Grand may be filled with fog? I was at the Canyon yesterday and was wondering what I might look for to predict it being filled with fog and being able to photograph above the layer from the rim. Since Flagstaff is only 2 hours away, a quick trip may be likely if conditions are right.
Posted by Bill Speaks on November 21, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Doug,

You might want to check out the Clear Dark Sky website.

http://www.cleardarksky.com/c/GCNrtAZkey.html?1

Red in the humidity histogram indicates higher humidity and the possibility of fog. Click on it and you will see a high level map of the computer forecast.

Posted by Doug Koepsel on November 21, 2010 at 1:00 PM
Thanks Bill!
Posted by Todd Caudle on November 21, 2010 at 2:18 PM
Put a homing beacon on my truck. HA! I wish! Fog-filled canyons are on my to-do list, from the Grand to Canyonlands.
Posted by Doug Koepsel on November 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Cloudman Todd, be cautious if you see an ugly bearded dog following you in a pick-up truck :wink:
Posted by Todd Caudle on November 22, 2010 at 1:44 PM
I see that when I look in my rear view mirror, Doug!
Posted by Guy Tal on November 22, 2010 at 3:06 PM
When looking at the forecast, check both the temperature and the dew point. When they are within a couple of degrees of each other, you'll have fog.

Guy
Posted by Stan Rose on November 22, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Well, not always. But moisture is a good thing. Recent (as in, previous or current day) precipitation is a good sign, followed rapidly by building high pressure--a ridge moving in (and clearing conditions) is a signal of warmer air aloft, and that's a good recipe for valley fog because it creates a temperature inversion. The clearing conditions are good especially if they come before sunrise, that allows more radiational cooling, and the colder it gets the faster the fog comes. So, its never a 'given', but look for the post frontal or post rain/snow days.
Posted by Doug Koepsel on November 23, 2010 at 9:20 AM
Thanks all for the info. It'll help me keep me know when to keep tabs on the Canyon. Sedona would be cool that way also.