Posted by John Robinson on December 2, 2010 at 8:20 AM
Waxwing in viburnum
A good example for the point about cropping.
If you haven't got long lenses with converters etc (that work!)
then very often a crop is the only way to get a viewable size image. This is about 70% of the image
Usual gear
180th @f8
640 ISO
Levels
Cheers
JohnR
Posted by John Robinson on December 2, 2010 at 9:21 AM
Hi Jules
No its not a real good example I agree.. I ,ve got a long lens but it doesn,t work with the converters, so all I am saying is that if I am not in a hide, where distances etc, etc can be controlled,then I often end up with a small image, which means I have to crop.
So yes maybe I am opening it again' or possibly defending my right to crop
As far as I am concerned today's photography is all mathematically (or whatever) produced anyway - from the minute we press the shutter,so I honestly cannot see what the fuss is about.
Maybe I don't explain myself very well
Cheers
John
I'm with you on this John. How many photographers used Hassleblads and Rolleis and other such square format film cameras simply so they had the option of cropping the image to their taste and needs. Surely the image content is more important than the number of pixels it contains. Nice image by the way (shame it's a crop ).
Posted by Adam Seward on December 2, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Lovely, never mind the crop. Still waiting to catch up with the waxwings that are supposed to be around Cardiff somewhere!
Posted by Malcolm Muir on December 2, 2010 at 12:19 PM
I do like this one John, the berries make a great bg and a nice, lively look to teh bird.
Posted by Barry Southon on December 2, 2010 at 12:21 PM
John
If it works for you crop away, be happy, your quality images are your work your treatment so do it your way.
I like your waxwing.
Posted by Simon Litten on December 2, 2010 at 12:51 PM
What's a "viewable size image"?
Nice waxwing shot. Great setting - I'd love to see about 30% more of it
Simon
Posted by simon manning on December 2, 2010 at 1:08 PM
A great image John
I don't care if it's cropped or not, it's the final result that I look at.
Geoff.
Posted by Roy Bailey on December 2, 2010 at 1:38 PM
Good that your getting some level shots at these birds.70% of full frame is trimming for composition in my book.
Posted by Shaun Simpson on December 2, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Nice shot John, got some of these round my way at the moment so trying to track them down, berries really compliment the bird.
Posted by Mark Davies on December 2, 2010 at 2:14 PM
Bird stands out nicely in its natural feed environment.
Posted by Danny Green on December 2, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Hello John
Nice image of a beautiful bird.
I was part of that debate and I still feel guilty about what I said because we lost a good member and regular poster who produced some top quality work. Sometimes you open your mouth before thinking, well I do anyway. Anyway it doesn't really matter as like Geoff said it is the final image that counts. So crop away
Discussion
16 repliesA good example for the point about cropping.
If you haven't got long lenses with converters etc (that work!)
then very often a crop is the only way to get a viewable size image. This is about 70% of the image
Usual gear
180th @f8
640 ISO
Levels
Cheers
JohnR
No its not a real good example I agree.. I ,ve got a long lens but it doesn,t work with the converters, so all I am saying is that if I am not in a hide, where distances etc, etc can be controlled,then I often end up with a small image, which means I have to crop.
So yes maybe I am opening it again' or possibly defending my right to crop
As far as I am concerned today's photography is all mathematically (or whatever) produced anyway - from the minute we press the shutter,so I honestly cannot see what the fuss is about.
Maybe I don't explain myself very well
Cheers
John
If it works for you crop away, be happy, your quality images are your work your treatment so do it your way.
I like your waxwing.
Nice waxwing shot. Great setting - I'd love to see about 30% more of it
Simon
Simon
I don't care if it's cropped or not, it's the final result that I look at.
Geoff.
Nice image of a beautiful bird.
I was part of that debate and I still feel guilty about what I said because we lost a good member and regular poster who produced some top quality work. Sometimes you open your mouth before thinking, well I do anyway. Anyway it doesn't really matter as like Geoff said it is the final image that counts. So crop away
Danny
We.ve even had these up the lane here but they are all moving around. We can't get out anyway so it don't really matter !!
Cheers
JohnR
David
This works beautifully for me, lovely bird and a setting that for me as work beautifully as well.