Posted by Lance Burch on February 4, 2011 at 1:26 PM
I've seen John post quite a bit of feedback on post-processing over the past year. Is there away to do a more advanced search so that I could only find posts about PP? Or John, do you have a blog (or book) on CS for landscapes? I feel pretty good about LR and Aperture but what to improve my photoshop skills without wading through a bunch of fluff on retouching portraits. thanks in advance
Lance
Posted by Jack Garrett on February 4, 2011 at 1:43 PM
I think John should come up to the Denver area and give us a workshop on PP...all in favor say Aye!!!
Seriously, Lance, there are a lot of great resources out there, more than I'll be able to think of offhand. But one suggestion I'd make is to read through Tony Kuyper's tutorials, particularly the ones on luminosity masking and luminosity painting. Those techniques are most of what I use for PP apart from RAW processing, and if you work through and understand what they're doing, you'll understand a lot about working images in Photoshop. It's very generous of him to make that info available for free! His action set is absolutely worth the money, but for educational purposes, work through this stuff manually a few times before you jump to using the actions.
Posted by Bill Bean on February 4, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Aye Aye Cap'n, Moab or Santa Fe makes no difference. I like em both
Posted by Jack Garrett on February 4, 2011 at 3:26 PM
ooooooh...a spring get together in Moab. Didn't know about that one. Would be a fun trip although I am headed back to Palouse in May for some of those green and red shots. When you get some dates Bret, let me know.
Posted by Lance Burch on February 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM
Jackson- thanks. That's exaclty along the lines of what I was looking for.
Posted by Ernie Marx on February 4, 2011 at 3:55 PM
I'd try to be there, too, John. Feeling the peer pressure?
Posted by John Mumaw on February 4, 2011 at 4:03 PM
LOL!!!
Thanks folks, but I just learned a lot of stuff from trawling through the Web. It's a miracle that my pea brain could retain as much as it has. Certain people and places have been pretty helpful. I started with Scott Kelby's 'PS ** for Digital Photographers' books which are an excellent resource. Another first step was studying Michael Reichmann's lengthy 'An Image Processing Workflow'.
I use Tony Kuyper's PS actions on nearly every image I develop. His hard work has been a real boon for photographers! There's simply no better way to make tonal adjustments than using his self-feathering luminosity masks.
I've been a subscriber to Tim Grey's free Digital Darkroom Questions e-newsletter for several years now, and once in a while he offers some great tips. The price is right, anyway!
Finally, just practice, practice, practice. Eventually, it becomes second nature to spot ways to optimize a good image to its full potential.
I often wonder if my lengthy responses got on peoples' nerves. Perhaps they do, but I sure appreciate the replies here.
And yes, there's no excuse whatsoever for me to miss a Spring fling thing in Moab. I'll definitely be there...
Posted by Laurie Wendt on February 4, 2011 at 5:18 PM
Thanks John for posting these great info sites! It's great everyone is so willing to be helpful to others. Really refreshing!
Hey Bret, Hope you post the dates here when you decide the dates for the Moab spring fling.
Posted by Joe Rogers on February 4, 2011 at 5:23 PM
John, I think the fact that much of your learning is experiental makes your brain the perfect brain to pick, if I may say so. I personally would like to see a workshop experience that was hands on in that each participant would bring thier own computer and work through images with techniques you demonstate and use.
Joe Rogers
Posted by Rod Chandler on February 4, 2011 at 5:28 PM
John, your lengthy responses are very much appreciated, always. That sort of thing definitely requires effort, and you offer that effort generously and consistently.
Yes, please, Bret, let's hear more about spring in Moab!
Posted by Anne K. Rusk on February 4, 2011 at 9:35 PM
Aye! Count me in for Moab (one of my favorite places on the planet!)
Posted by Bert Fukuda on February 4, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Aye. I'm in!
Posted by Bret Edge on February 4, 2011 at 11:59 PM
I'll try to work out a date this weekend. Most likely early spring - like March or April. May is filling up for me and I'd kinda like to be here when y'all show up.
Posted by Lynn Scott on February 5, 2011 at 2:19 AM
Aye Aye for me----please please count me in. Not the first week end in April please please :) I have a Stillwater Fly Fishing seminar in SLC, UT.
Posted by Kalin Wilson on February 5, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Another Spring get together in Moab would be great. Haven't been able to make one yet.
Good list of resources, John, right inline with what I was thinking about. Jesse has a great post on a basic blend process that can be extended beyond two exposures. I'm another BIG fan of TK's tutorials and actions. They taught me a lot. I think it's very valuable to understand how to use Photoshop layers, masking, and adjustments as a general skill. There is a lot you can do in lightroom or via commercial plugins, but it's nice to understand what's happening under the covers when you need to tackle the really tough image problems.
Posted by Paul Wegemann on February 5, 2011 at 2:54 PM
Discussion
22 repliesLance
Seriously, Lance, there are a lot of great resources out there, more than I'll be able to think of offhand. But one suggestion I'd make is to read through Tony Kuyper's tutorials, particularly the ones on luminosity masking and luminosity painting. Those techniques are most of what I use for PP apart from RAW processing, and if you work through and understand what they're doing, you'll understand a lot about working images in Photoshop. It's very generous of him to make that info available for free! His action set is absolutely worth the money, but for educational purposes, work through this stuff manually a few times before you jump to using the actions.
Thanks folks, but I just learned a lot of stuff from trawling through the Web. It's a miracle that my pea brain could retain as much as it has. Certain people and places have been pretty helpful. I started with Scott Kelby's 'PS ** for Digital Photographers' books which are an excellent resource. Another first step was studying Michael Reichmann's lengthy 'An Image Processing Workflow'.
I use Tony Kuyper's PS actions on nearly every image I develop. His hard work has been a real boon for photographers! There's simply no better way to make tonal adjustments than using his self-feathering luminosity masks.
I've been a subscriber to Tim Grey's free Digital Darkroom Questions e-newsletter for several years now, and once in a while he offers some great tips. The price is right, anyway!
Finally, just practice, practice, practice. Eventually, it becomes second nature to spot ways to optimize a good image to its full potential.
I often wonder if my lengthy responses got on peoples' nerves. Perhaps they do, but I sure appreciate the replies here.
And yes, there's no excuse whatsoever for me to miss a Spring fling thing in Moab. I'll definitely be there...
Hey Bret, Hope you post the dates here when you decide the dates for the Moab spring fling.
Joe Rogers
Yes, please, Bret, let's hear more about spring in Moab!
Good list of resources, John, right inline with what I was thinking about. Jesse has a great post on a basic blend process that can be extended beyond two exposures. I'm another BIG fan of TK's tutorials and actions. They taught me a lot. I think it's very valuable to understand how to use Photoshop layers, masking, and adjustments as a general skill. There is a lot you can do in lightroom or via commercial plugins, but it's nice to understand what's happening under the covers when you need to tackle the really tough image problems.
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