Another sunrise from a morning on the Clear Fork of the Trinity. Actually from the same morning as my last post. This was probably the best color from the day.
Single exposure with a ND grad filter. I tried to HDR it but this looked better. 50D with Siggy 10-20.
Darren, I do like the color and mood in the one better. Just curious are shooting from a rock in the middle of the river? The feel is that you are in the middle of the stream.
This image does not look right though. It should be lighter and have more orange in the water and lighter blues and purples in the clouds on the left. This looks too dark and dull.
The image I worked and see in PS and the jpeg I review with Windows Photo Gallery are more colorful. Now Someone recently convinced me to work in the ProPhoto RGB colorspace and this was made there but I thought a jpeg saved out of it would have looked the same. I might be wrong and need to reconvert.
Wayne, the only difference is that I changed the output colorspace. The second one is what I saw but what posted had the washed out colors of the first one. Simply taking the same image and converting the output colorspace got me the second one.
There is so much to Photoshop, color management, mntor calibration, printer calibration, paper calibration, scanner calibration. It is frustrating. I miss just shooting Velvia. Click. Done.......
Ken, yes it is a drought here. However there is usually water in the Trinity unless the shut the dam. Oddly there is often LESS water after big rains. There are two brances to the Trinity River in town, the Clear and West forks. The Clear Fork has a Corps lake that can hold flood water. The other fork cannot so after big rains they often stop the water at Lake Benbrook until Lake Worth drains since it cannot hold extra.
Jan- Yes this is Comanche country. Well actually the eastern edge. Late summer was their season and I have not read that book but the September full moon was known as the Comanche moon as they would raid then. Water has greened up the deserts by then and they would ride all night.
Posted by Wayne Rhodus on July 7, 2011 at 11:26 AM
Hey Darren, you found the secret ... for the web you must change the color space to sRGB, resize, sharpen to taste and then save for the web.
But even that process doesn't guarantee that each viewer will see your image the way you intend. Not all web browsers are color managed (there is a big discussion about this on NPN right now). With several IE versions, Google Chrome, Firefox and Safari browsers you never know who will be using what and each may treat your image differently when viewed.
Basically viewing on the web is a crap shoot and once we understand the limitations it gives a whole different perspective to critiquing images on color & saturation issues.
Nice work on the second one, Darren. Not much to add here ... Wayne's totally correct. The only two calibrations that I pay much attention to are the monitor and media. Everything else can be adjusted in PS, except how the image appears on the web. I usually have to crank the contrast and saturation waaay down for things to look right on my website.
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9 repliesSingle exposure with a ND grad filter. I tried to HDR it but this looked better. 50D with Siggy 10-20.
This image does not look right though. It should be lighter and have more orange in the water and lighter blues and purples in the clouds on the left. This looks too dark and dull.
The image I worked and see in PS and the jpeg I review with Windows Photo Gallery are more colorful. Now Someone recently convinced me to work in the ProPhoto RGB colorspace and this was made there but I thought a jpeg saved out of it would have looked the same. I might be wrong and need to reconvert.
Hmmmnnnn. I hate color management...... ;-)
And it does. Had to convert to sRGB before saving the jpeg.
Does this color look better? This is what I see in PS.
Isn't Texas in a drought? Where does all that water come from?
There is so much to Photoshop, color management, mntor calibration, printer calibration, paper calibration, scanner calibration. It is frustrating. I miss just shooting Velvia. Click. Done.......
Ken, yes it is a drought here. However there is usually water in the Trinity unless the shut the dam. Oddly there is often LESS water after big rains. There are two brances to the Trinity River in town, the Clear and West forks. The Clear Fork has a Corps lake that can hold flood water. The other fork cannot so after big rains they often stop the water at Lake Benbrook until Lake Worth drains since it cannot hold extra.
Jan- Yes this is Comanche country. Well actually the eastern edge. Late summer was their season and I have not read that book but the September full moon was known as the Comanche moon as they would raid then. Water has greened up the deserts by then and they would ride all night.
But even that process doesn't guarantee that each viewer will see your image the way you intend. Not all web browsers are color managed (there is a big discussion about this on NPN right now). With several IE versions, Google Chrome, Firefox and Safari browsers you never know who will be using what and each may treat your image differently when viewed.
Basically viewing on the web is a crap shoot and once we understand the limitations it gives a whole different perspective to critiquing images on color & saturation issues.