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Posted by Jack Brauer on February 15, 2012 at 11:19 AM
One more tempted to try it out at this price. So Lightroom fans: in as few words as possible, what would you say is the main advantage of Lightroom for a non-pro landscape photographer over simply sticking with CS5 and Bridge?
Posted by Scott Bideau on February 15, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Thanks for wrapping the URLs Jack (I always forget this forum is behind the times in functionality).
#1 positive for Lightroom: the nondestructive editing.
#1 negative for Lightroom: the nondestructive editing.
Let me clarify :)
For "most" of my photos, I love the nondestructive editing Lightroom provides since the changes are written either to metadata or just to the Lightroom database without actually updating the image file. This combined with the history and snapshot points I can take make it easy to go down a path I like at first but end up regretting (without having lots of file copies as I had in Bridge).
For some of my photos, specifically those personal ones I take of my family, I hate the fact that there is not an option to simply "write" or "apply" my changes to the JPG. Instead, I have to export to a new JPG, delete the original, and then move the new JPG to the old one's previous location. With Bridge I simply made my changes and then my wife could "see" them via a Windows file share to my machine. The closest answer I've found to this challenge is using the "Publish to Hard Drive" service which allows you to semi-automatically export all your images to JPG (or similair) with all the edits applied. I say semi-automatic because Lightroom will keep track of what changes/files have been exported and which have not, but you still have to manually click a "Publish" button. This is a huge pain, especially since there's no obvious indicator throughout Lightroom that tells you about a need to publish....you must go into the publish service and click the button. This also forces duplicates.
The usual response I get about this complaint is that only professional photographers use Lighroom and they don't want this feature. Well, when it's offered for $70 alongside Photoshop Elements, that argument doesn't make as much sense!
Posted by Karl Buiter on February 15, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Inventory dumping.
Sounds like LR4 is just about to release.
But I would not hesitate to buy LR3 for $70.
It took me awhile to adapt but LR3 is good stuff. +1 on the non-destructive editing comments. And its a nice host for all the add-on packs from Nik etc.
Posted by Todd Caudle on February 15, 2012 at 5:52 PM
(I always forget this forum is behind the times in functionality)
As are some of its users, apparently.
Posted by Scott Bideau on February 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM
Sorry but for a paid forum, you'd think the software could auto insert href tags (like most other modern forum software). That said, I'll do my best to remember the manual wrap tags in the future.
Posted by Don George on February 15, 2012 at 6:26 PM
B&H is now out but they are expecting a shipment in Feb. 24th.
Discussion
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Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 & Premier Elements 10 ($69): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/822135-REG/Adobe_65136565_Photoshop_Elements_10.html/BI/6851/KBID/7404
Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 & Premier Elements 10 ($69): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/822135-REG/Adobe_65136565_Photoshop_Elements_10.html/BI/6851/KBID/7404
Thanks for the tip! I have not yet tried Lightroom but at that price I'll give it a shot!
#1 positive for Lightroom: the nondestructive editing.
#1 negative for Lightroom: the nondestructive editing.
Let me clarify :)
For "most" of my photos, I love the nondestructive editing Lightroom provides since the changes are written either to metadata or just to the Lightroom database without actually updating the image file. This combined with the history and snapshot points I can take make it easy to go down a path I like at first but end up regretting (without having lots of file copies as I had in Bridge).
For some of my photos, specifically those personal ones I take of my family, I hate the fact that there is not an option to simply "write" or "apply" my changes to the JPG. Instead, I have to export to a new JPG, delete the original, and then move the new JPG to the old one's previous location. With Bridge I simply made my changes and then my wife could "see" them via a Windows file share to my machine. The closest answer I've found to this challenge is using the "Publish to Hard Drive" service which allows you to semi-automatically export all your images to JPG (or similair) with all the edits applied. I say semi-automatic because Lightroom will keep track of what changes/files have been exported and which have not, but you still have to manually click a "Publish" button. This is a huge pain, especially since there's no obvious indicator throughout Lightroom that tells you about a need to publish....you must go into the publish service and click the button. This also forces duplicates.
The usual response I get about this complaint is that only professional photographers use Lighroom and they don't want this feature. Well, when it's offered for $70 alongside Photoshop Elements, that argument doesn't make as much sense!
Sounds like LR4 is just about to release.
But I would not hesitate to buy LR3 for $70.
It took me awhile to adapt but LR3 is good stuff. +1 on the non-destructive editing comments. And its a nice host for all the add-on packs from Nik etc.
As are some of its users, apparently.