Last frame I shot before the birds decided to fly off.
The first shots I took 2 hrs before this one were at ISO 1600 and even wide open, shutter speed was a lowly 0.5sec. Amazing how quickly the light changes at dawn
Like the over the shoulder look.
No apologies for being big in the frame, it's how I shoot them.
Hi John, the pose, look back and placement in frame is certainly better than the previous post. I feel you could lose perhaps half the space on the RHS, as there would still be enough space for the bird to walk into, but would remove the central placement look. Personally I think it looks a little too saturated, therefore adjusting the yellow, red will bring out some more detail in the wing feathers, plus some selective adjustments in Curves to help the blacks and again the detail. The whites also will improve too. However, you might also find that simply adjusting the WB & temperature firstly would also help?
Cheers Steve. I'm really struggling with the colour on the shots I got when the sun came out. White balance was set on daylight, which generally covers anything I do but does not do early morning sunshine, which tends to saturate the birds anyway.
I don't do colour adjustment as a rule, simply because I can not tell the difference between red and green. Again the camera normally gets it right for me, but with the effing mk111 there is nothing that works simply in this situation. Cropping is something I prefer to leave to the end user and central in this case doesn't bother me too much. This image is full frame so not much room for a 3:2 crop w/o losing head or foot room.
Had a go at altering the white balance from 5236K as shot to 3660K. Certainly looks cooler to me, but I'm no judge of colour.
Hi John, I had no idea re colour, however I might have some links for you. Although away, if you email me I can try and locate them & fwd if you think it would help. Might also suggest one thing you could try too.
I'm with Nick here and think somewhere between the two images will be correct and still retain something of the light that you saw when taking the image.. the composition is fine for me too... Nice one...
I think the first one is fantastic as I love the almost oil painting look of it. Whilst the second is a bit more natural it seems a little large in the frame. Wish we had these is Essex
With the vignetted background I don't think the central placing of the bird is any problem and would leave it as it is. Colour wise I agree that the first was too warm but the second is just a tad too much the other way so I would be looking at warming the second just a touch. A cracking capture though and a wonderful pose.
The second post looks fine John but is not representative of the early morning warmth of the sun which I assume you were trying to capture. I guess it depends on what image you are trying to portray and I guess you probably need to play around a little with colour temps, saturation etc until it is there. Both posts stand on their own merits.
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19 repliesThe first shots I took 2 hrs before this one were at ISO 1600 and even wide open, shutter speed was a lowly 0.5sec. Amazing how quickly the light changes at dawn
Like the over the shoulder look.
No apologies for being big in the frame, it's how I shoot them.
1D3
400/2.8L IS
1/1000
f/3.5
ISO200
Nick.
Nick.
Good stuff.
JR
Oscar
Just my 2cents.
TFS
Steve
I don't do colour adjustment as a rule, simply because I can not tell the difference between red and green. Again the camera normally gets it right for me, but with the effing mk111 there is nothing that works simply in this situation. Cropping is something I prefer to leave to the end user and central in this case doesn't bother me too much. This image is full frame so not much room for a 3:2 crop w/o losing head or foot room.
Had a go at altering the white balance from 5236K as shot to 3660K. Certainly looks cooler to me, but I'm no judge of colour.
What do you think?
All the best.
Steve
A very interesting post, enhanced still further by the additional opinions and adjustments. Thanks for sharing.
Bob
Nick.
Dave