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Cedar Mesa

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Posted by Bill Pelzmann on June 15, 2012 at 3:01 AM
Cedar Mesa
I spent a week exploring Cedar Mesa and was overwhelmed by the quantity, variety and quality of archeological treasures hidden in the maze of canyons.

The pictograph above was found while exploring the ledges around some ruins. Have any of you seen anything similar in the Four Corners area ?

What's your interpretation ?
- Spirits ascending
- Family portrait
- Three fish
- Mother with two children
- Alien close encounter
Posted by Bill Pelzmann on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 AM
# 2 - One of the many petroglyph panels
Posted by Bill Pelzmann on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 AM
# 3 - Detail from the left side of #2
Posted by Bill Pelzmann on June 15, 2012 at 3:02 AM
# 4 - At first glance, I thought this was an elk, but the "leafy" antlers suggest moose? The style appears post Anasazi ?
Posted by Bill Pelzmann on June 15, 2012 at 3:03 AM
# 5 - I thought that, after a few days, I'd quickly tire of visiting ruins, but they were all very different, in one aspect or another.
Besides they were great fun trying to find. Even when you know the location, the trail was rarely obvious.
Posted by Pete Miller on June 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Great find Bill! Going to take a while to digest these, but certainly love the initial pass. :) #2 & #5 are my fav's so far.
Posted by Todd Caudle on June 15, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Great stuff! Looking at 2 and 3, is it such a stretch to conclude that Earth was visited by extraterrestrials during this period? Like the Nazca Lines in Peru.
Posted by David Bartlett _CO on June 15, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Great series of images!
Posted by Morris McClung on June 15, 2012 at 11:52 AM
What a great series of glyphs, Bill! I like your conversions on all of these, as well as the comps and formats you worked in.

I suspect is was not extraterrestrials, TC. I'm wondering if instead of medical marijuana dispensaries, that maybe there were pharmaceutical peyote dispensaries. :biggrin: Looks like somebody was trippin'.
Posted by Mark Stahlke on June 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM
What's your interpretation ?
- Spirits ascending
- Family portrait
- Three fish
- Mother with two children
- Alien close encounter

I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob.
:biggrin:
Posted by John Mumaw on June 15, 2012 at 6:53 PM
I've always wondered if what Todd said has a ring of truth, especially after seeing some of these 'glyphs. Nice finds!
The last one is definitely 'post-Anasazi'. Could be Ute or Navajo 'glyphs.
I like your b&w interpretation of Fallen Roof, but do believe it would look better with a healthy boost in contrast for some deeper blacks.
Posted by Roger Rouch on June 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM
Those are all excellent, Bill. #2 and #3 are especially interesting!

I sometimes wonder what the human thought process would have been like without the dominant left brain thought processes of our modern logical scientific and verbal society. Maybe there was some sort of a sixth sense that has become vestigial in more "advanced" cultures. I think a lot of the indigenous cultures around the world used ritual entheogens.and there was probably at least some datura in those areas.
Posted by Kalin Wilson on June 16, 2012 at 1:49 AM
Love your presentation of the glyphs. That area is high on my favorites list. It's one of the first places I think of going when I have a few days. Nice work!
Posted by Ken Henke on June 16, 2012 at 10:55 AM
NIce set of images, Bill. Often wondered myself the interpretation of rock art. I asked an archeologist on our staff to interpret the image I attached. It was taken in Capitol Reef Nat'l Park. Apparently, it was created by Fremont Indians who are some of the oldest known inhabitants of the area. Notice the similarity to some of your images? They usually have trapezoidal shaped bodies with arms, legs and fingers. The figures are often elaborately decorated with headdresses, ear bobs, and necklaces. Anywho, our archy indicated the images could be recorded religious or mythological events, migrations, hunting trips, resource locations, travel routes, celestial information and other important knowledge to share with other tribes. Seems to me its like a diary on rock. What was interesting about the place I took these photos is that the art was at least 15 feet off the ground and many much higher. So, somehow they either built ladders and repelled down the face of this cliff.
The bottom line though, is that archeologists frankly don't really know the absolute meaning of rock art. So yea, peyote or Indian rice grass beer could be the answer :toast:
Posted by Doug Koepsel on June 16, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Bill, the first image reminded me of the tadpole shrimp that are found in desert potholes. Fallen Roof sure is photogenic.
Posted by Joshua Warrender on June 17, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Thanks for sharing these, Bill. A nice series on the rock art, I like your B&W treatment on them.
Posted by Stan Rose on June 17, 2012 at 8:56 PM
Pretty freaky stuff, Bill! #1 is proof that we evolved from fish i guess! :razz:
Posted by Mel Ladewig on June 18, 2012 at 8:12 AM
I'm pretty sure the guy in the bottom center of #3 is comfortably numb

Clearly #2 is the record of the great kegger of 1015 AD. Man you should have been there!

Posted by Rod Chandler on June 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM
Bill, I have not posted any images - YET - but I spent a week along Comb Ridge in May shooting similar ruins and rock art. If you do not have Craig Child's book HOUSE OF RAIN, I highly recommend it. I am afraid I may be hooked on cave dwelling and rock art exploring.
Posted by Adam Schallau on June 20, 2012 at 7:13 PM
A really nice collection of work! I love the Cedar Mesa and Comb Ridge area and can't wait to get back there next year.
Posted by Rodney Ninow on August 11, 2012 at 12:02 PM
#5 is really, really nice! I just shot there yesterday, wish I had seen this first, don't think I shot quite that wide. Oh well, I have a friend who is dying to go, so have an excuse to go back.