Just by way of a change and implementing advice given on my previous posts another effort which I'd like to submit for Critique Comments and or Advice.
Canon 1D3 Canon 800mm plus 1.4 mk111 extender on a tripod + gimbal
1/60sec 1120mm ISO 800 f/10 RAW to lightroom then re-sized to post no other PP so as is out of the camera two dust spots as well.
We seem to be getting a few rare sightings on the south coast five Bee Eaters yesterday.
Thanks for looking.
Posted by Andy Astbury on June 21, 2012 at 8:29 AM
Barry - again we come back to what I said yesterday - you are too far away from your subject - putting that 1.4xtc will take your aperture to f10 wide open, which is most likely what's made the image look a little foggy and washed out.
The bird is facing away from you which is something that should be avoided.
The background is far too close to the subject to be rendered in a pleasing manner.
In an ideal situation we all look for images where the subject to background distance is a lot greater than the camera to subject distance - this is something you should always look for before you get the camera out; we will frequently walk away from an otherwise great shot just because the background is bad.
It would have made a better image without the addition of the tc - you wouldn't have clipped the birds foot, and there would have been more space on the left - "looking room" for the subject; and other than the pose of the bird the only real problem would be the vine hanging down.
Hope this helps
Posted by Barry Southon on June 21, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Andy
This was a chance encounter which I grabbed rather than miss the opportunity.
Your analysis of my efforts is really extremely helpful and very much appreciated. I do tend to submit the questionable results for such critique not only because they are more frequent than the good ones.
My camera is still away for repair so in an effort to maintain sanity I'm trying to understand my historical errors. Not so sure that's best judgement
Thanks for the comments.
Posted by Phil Ellard on June 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM
I always listen to Andy, except when he swears at me, he offers good advice
Good advice, although I do not find the BG so bad, if it is get the shot or not bother when something rare occurs, get the shot. Something OOF seems to be between you and the heron near the head and is causing a colour shift/softness.
When things are too close I often lock focus and take a shot or two to the left or right, so I can add something without hours of cloning if needed.
Posted by Nick Mckeown on June 21, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Some very sound advice has been given Barry. Photography is a very challenging medium and I wish I had a pound for every photo I have binned or deleted but when you do get it right then the rewards far outweigh the frustrations. If every time you went out with your camera and came back with award winning images it would soon get pretty boring. No pain, no gain!
Barry sounds like you have some very good advice on this image,i don't feel that i can add to it.
We have had a Bee-Eater in my part of Lincolnshire and also a Roller across the river in Hull.
Cheers Keith.
Discussion
6 repliesCanon 1D3 Canon 800mm plus 1.4 mk111 extender on a tripod + gimbal
1/60sec 1120mm ISO 800 f/10 RAW to lightroom then re-sized to post no other PP so as is out of the camera two dust spots as well.
We seem to be getting a few rare sightings on the south coast five Bee Eaters yesterday.
Thanks for looking.
The bird is facing away from you which is something that should be avoided.
The background is far too close to the subject to be rendered in a pleasing manner.
In an ideal situation we all look for images where the subject to background distance is a lot greater than the camera to subject distance - this is something you should always look for before you get the camera out; we will frequently walk away from an otherwise great shot just because the background is bad.
It would have made a better image without the addition of the tc - you wouldn't have clipped the birds foot, and there would have been more space on the left - "looking room" for the subject; and other than the pose of the bird the only real problem would be the vine hanging down.
Hope this helps
This was a chance encounter which I grabbed rather than miss the opportunity.
Your analysis of my efforts is really extremely helpful and very much appreciated. I do tend to submit the questionable results for such critique not only because they are more frequent than the good ones.
My camera is still away for repair so in an effort to maintain sanity I'm trying to understand my historical errors. Not so sure that's best judgement
Thanks for the comments.
When things are too close I often lock focus and take a shot or two to the left or right, so I can add something without hours of cloning if needed.
Nick.
We have had a Bee-Eater in my part of Lincolnshire and also a Roller across the river in Hull.
Cheers Keith.