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sharp images fro the web

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Posted by jack jaeger jr on July 15, 2012 at 6:08 PM
Just wondering why some npn'ers photos look so crisp on the web and others dont . I post mine at 720 long side and close to the 300kb limit and they never look very sharp. I also notice this with other peoples photos some look very crisp and others look well "processed for the web," is all i can say and they look to be useing good equipment. Is it the downsizing method used or is it something else?
I am usually disapointed with my photos once downsized.
Posted by Brian Gatlin on July 15, 2012 at 6:40 PM
could be a whole lot of different factors in the variability, Jack, including quality of gear, skill in using it, quality of the original capture, skill in processing/sharpening the image, and personal standards.

In your case, if you are happy with the photos at higher resolution, reducing the image size/resolution should not make it look less sharp, so it sounds like a workflow issue. It's generally preferable to save your sharpening for last, and to do it at the size (re-sized) you intend to present.
Posted by John Mumaw on July 15, 2012 at 6:52 PM
You would need to outline your sharpening workflow for folks to get a better sense of your disappointment.
I know that images almost always need to be re-sharpened to some degree after resizing for the web.
Here's a simple tutorial on 4 different methods of web sharpening. Ignore the first and note that the third one is used by many members here.

Posted by jack jaeger jr on July 15, 2012 at 8:39 PM
Thanks John, have you noticed what im talking about ?
Posted by John Mumaw on July 15, 2012 at 9:21 PM
Well, not really. That's because I resharpen my downsized images. Can you post an example(s) or explain your sharpening workflow a bit?
Posted by Jim Bullard on July 16, 2012 at 7:40 AM
Sharpening is specific to output. Whenever you resize you need to resharpen. Before I post an image to the web I almost always sharpen it at least a little. Each image has to be judged individually while viewing it 100%. If the image looks a bit dull I will apply USM at 10/60/0 to increase local contrast. The first setting (10) can vary from 5 to 15. I leave the 60/0 constant. And/or I may apply Smart Sharpen at 50-100% with a radius of 0.3 to 0.5.
Posted by Mia McPherson on July 16, 2012 at 8:15 AM
Jack,

An excellent resource on sharpening for the web is found on NPN member Rich Ditch's web site: http://richditch.com/page0/page64/digital.html, click on sharpening. I notice that you have birds and other wildlife in your NPN gallery and his process produces images with the right amount of sharpening.

When I viewed the Lorikeet images used as an example on the link that John posted I found the images to be a bit over-sharpened, in some areas the feather were too crinkly.

Sharpening; as mentioned by others, should be the last step in your process and done at each size you might post.
Posted by Stuart Williams on July 17, 2012 at 5:32 AM
NPN'er Andreas Resch has an excellent tool for downsizing and sharpening: one can download it from his website - http://www.andreasresch.at/ - or search his forum posts for the specific links
Posted by Bret Edge on July 27, 2012 at 5:34 PM
You've already received some good advice. I'll add to it by saying that using Nik Sharpener Pro 3 AFTER re-sizing your image for the web gives exceptional results every time. I use it for every photo I sharpen, whether for the web or print. I've been very happy w/ it. It is the easiest and most consistent method I've used.