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Now when you find a good watering hole

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Posted by Barry Southon on June 26, 2013 at 4:05 PM
Now when you find a good watering hole
To be honest I've been on a mission, I have had the great pleasure to share a watering hole with a large number of birds, in turn can I share them with you? All on reflection.

After many hours,up at the crack of sparrows a terrible pun I know but worth every second to me.

Harsh light stopped play.

Canon 1DX Canon 70-200mm on tripod in a hide. RAW to lightroom then PS5 re-sized to post.200mm ISO1600 1/500sec f/2.8.

Your Comments, Critique,and Advice most welcomed and thank you for looking.

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Posted by Neil Burton on June 27, 2013 at 3:27 AM
Cracking shot of a buzzard. I fin there is too much above him though, would personally crop from the top right down until the log disappears. :toast:
Posted by Mike Smith on June 27, 2013 at 4:36 AM
Looks good, but JR will hate that reflection!

Great set up - if you've constructed I would definitely remove that log.
Posted by Barry Southon on June 27, 2013 at 6:18 AM
Neil & Mike

Thanks for the comments, just a couple of points it's not my set up, so I'm restricted as far as construction goes. Nevertheless I totally agree about the log it was my first observation too.

Reflection's now thats another discussion which has already been thrashed out on this forum a number of times. With respect to JR I beg to differ.

Thankfully we are all different and have our indiviual views on the subject, I'm in the like camp at the moment could be somewhat biased due to a high rate of success at this location. That said I'm still open to critique and the argument of others for and against in order to form a better understanding.

The only other point I would make is when the subject is standing in the water its somewhat difficult to allow for the feet and remaining virtual leg, without including a portion of reflection. This hide provides just above water level vision from what I have learnt on this forum the position to be. I do have other examples to illustrate the point in greater detail and will seek further comments if I may.

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Posted by Bob Johnson on June 27, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Yep the second one is a lot better Barry although the crop is showing up that the original is perhaps a little soft or is it just my old eyes :wink:

Bob :smile:
Posted by Barry Southon on June 27, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Bob

Could be my eyes, aren't what they were, distance not a problem but close up I question what I'm seeing. Perhaps more water with it?

I'll post couple more for the test.

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Posted by Graham Goddard on June 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM
I think the softness is more to do with processing as the original isn't soft as far as I can tell. There seems to be a rogue pixel mid right of the birds head though which needs attention.

Personally, I prefer a full reflection - any image I have where the reflection is cut does not look complete to me, Whats the point of a reflection pool set up and then cutting the reflection ? (sorry JR).

I think the fact that someone has a bathing buzzard that you can photograph is the more important point :wink: Re composition, as the bird is looking left, I'd have composed accordingly.....
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Posted by Barry Southon on June 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Graham

Only processing was to re-size to post plus the crop at Neil and Mikes suggestion. The rouge pixel is a bug in flight reduced by re sizing. All very helpful observations thanks Graham.

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Posted by Nick Mckeown on June 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Second post is an improvement Barry but I would be tempted to take a little more off the RH side as the bird is too central. Again comp is very personal. :wink:
Looking forward to more from the pool of mirrors!

Nick. :toast: :smile: :wavey:
Posted by John Robinson on June 27, 2013 at 3:00 PM
I hung off commenting on this whilst having a think Barry. My son and I had a set uplike this 20 years ago which we carried around . It was on four adjustable legs and after a while we burned it.! When this sort of pool stuff began it was rare and a novelty- now its become commercial and that does not sit well with me either.
Apart from the reflections, it never looked natural and thats the way I have looked at these setups done in Europe, and this country too, ever since. Its not an angle or viewpoint we would normally see a creature from and I just don;t feel right about it
.I don't like reflections because as Graham says - you have them all or nothing - they don't look right chopped.
So there we are, the Buzzard- fine although the second ids definately a little soft, but you know the rest. Every one has their own preferences and there are no rules laid down If you like it Barry - thats all that matters.
Cheers
JR
Posted by Phil Ellard on June 27, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Good points already made, great to get such a shot, finer points aside :toast: :toast: :toast:
Posted by keith mitchell on July 1, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Barry I would be chuffed to bits with the first one maybe a tweak here and there with the tec bits, recon it's a very nice artistic image reflection and all!
:toast: Keith. :smile: