Nature Photographers Network
This is the preserved archive of the original Nature Photographers Network. The community continues at naturephotographers.network.

Grand Falls

Discussion

9 replies
Posted by Doug Koepsel on July 28, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Grand Falls
I met Karl Buiter in Flag Saturday and we drove out to Grand/Chocolate Falls near Leupp . Adam Schallau and Rick Goldwasser were also there for a while. Heavy rains in the Little Colorado River Valley on Friday caused the river to flow well yesterday. Peak was close to 8000 cfs in Winslow. There was a lot of muddy mist in the air and one had to choose a shooting location accordingly. This was taken at 4:14 this morning. Sunrise was about 5:30. The moon was fairly bright at 67%
D600, ISO 1250, 20sec, 16mm, f/4.
Posted by Doug Koepsel on July 28, 2013 at 9:26 PM
A little earlier at 4 AM
Posted by Doug Koepsel on July 28, 2013 at 9:31 PM
Earlier Saturday afternoon (some flat light for ya, Stan :wink: ). The D600 does an in-camera HDR, so this is a trial with a 3 EV difference of 2 shots. NIK tonal contrast also used.
Posted by Doug Koepsel on July 29, 2013 at 9:56 AM
The night shots look too saturated to me. Concur?
Posted by Don Grall on July 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Interesting take on Grand Falls. I agree the skies are too saturated and an off shade of blue as well (maybe too much magenta?)

I just got off an awesome 16 day (July 10-25) kayak trip down the Grand Canyon from Lees Ferry to Diamond Peak and we had many days and early evenings with thunderstorms or threat of thunderstorms. One of the wettest Grand trips I've been on (this was #5). The water was very muddy from about day 6 onwards. The Little Colorado was running muddy at the Colorado confluence which is pretty normal for it (it was dry as a bone where 89 crossed it on our way to Lees Ferry), but what was really unusual was that Clear Creek and Havasu Creek were both muddy as well (1st time I've seen that!).
Posted by Karl Buiter on July 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM
I got the same take about oversaturated skies. They are tough.

It may be because we largely see monochromatic at night (rods vs cones) whereas the camera picks up the hues. So what may be more correct looks totally wrong to us.
Posted by Doug Koepsel on July 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM
Don, thanks for the input. I reduced the overall saturation about 10 points, and then reduced the blue some more. I did not see any magenta in the sky when I slid magenta to +100. Added a little image polish for contrast. The moon was so bright that the originals looked like daylight.
Posted by John Mumaw on July 29, 2013 at 7:50 PM
This just isn't working for me, Doug. The landscape looks quite murky and the blues in the clouds look funky.
I wonder if this approach may have worked better as a multiple exposure (e.g. landscape photographed at twilight or pre-dawn, with the skies at night)? In particular, Shane McD.'s image from here is almost the gold standard for night photography at the GF.

Posted by Morris McClung on July 31, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Cool shots, Doug. I could see a little brightening, but these are against a white background, so a darker one might show them off better.

The in camera HDR is pretty good at this size, but still looks a little like that process to me. These falls must just be massive!
Posted by Doug Koepsel on August 2, 2013 at 11:52 AM
John, I'll probably always hit my head on that hurdle bar of Shane's :wink:
Morris, thanks for the feedback. The in-camera HDR in the D600 only uses 2 images, and so far, the effects seem rather benign as far as garish HDR looks. I have not used it much though. The clouds were likely most effected by the use of NIK tonal contrast. Grand Falls is in total 185' , a few feet higher than Niagara Falls.