Just got my IDX Mk II, so went for a download of the "Raw" convertor.
Nothing indicated it had limits to its application.
I do not subscribe to CC as I do not want all they offer and it will not work with my extremely slow download speed here in South Africa.
Having waited forever I was a little annoyed to find that it will not work with CS6!
I had previously spent fortune on updates from CS1 onwards, customer loyalty means nothing to these people!
Hi Ken, I ran into the same problem when I bought my 7D2 in December. My "new" work flow includes downloading using the Canon supplied raw converter into a .dmg file and then going into Lightroom/Photoshop. Yes, the requirements of the corporate world make life very difficult for anyone working on their own, with a limited budget.
It is unfortunate that Adobe discontinued updates for ACR in older versions of PS including CS6. Fortunately, my D-7100 is supported in ACR for CS6, but I suppose I will be forced to go another route when I buy a new camera that is not supported.
Yes, the requirements of the corporate world make life very difficult for anyone working on their own, with a limited budget.
This pretty much sums it up! How many of us have been forced to purchased a new computer when legacy machines and operating systems no longer work with new software? How many of us will be forced to seek work-arounds for things like RAW conversion, or be forced to submit to Adobe's subscription paradigm for Creative Cloud?
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I've had to go through PS upgrades three times simply because of the RAW issue. Still on CS6, but CC is inevitable, I suppose. Mark, I assume you're on an older version that CS6? I can work with my 7DII files just fine.
On1 RAW looks pretty good and it will be nice for someone who does not do much editing in PS or LR. Personally, it would be overkill for me and add yet another piece of software that needs to be maintained. Also, the $150/ year 'membership' is pretty steep. I do agree that it would solve the Adobe ACR issue.
Here's more from PetaPixel on the On1 converter.
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I do not subscribe to CC as I do not want all they offer and it will not work with my extremely slow download speed here in South Africa.
Hi Ken:
I don't want to start a debate on the subscription model, but I'm not sure I understand this statement. You can subscribe to just Photoshop and Lightroom for $10 / Month. You don't need a fast internet connection. The software downloads and is installed on your machine. It only need to connect to the internet once every 30 days to validate that your subscription is still paid. Other than that it can run completely off line. It doesn't matter what vendor you choose, you are going to have to keep your software current. This problem arose because you are now shooting a 1DX Mark II, a brand new camera......
When I got a 5D2, my version of Photoshop did not have a raw converter for that camera. I did the DNG conversion, then opened them in RAW. It was a real pain. I had to wait on the conversion, then had twice as many files to deal with. I upgraded soon thereafter. When you get a new camera, Adobe has you by the you know whats. Capitalist society provides us with great new products and services, but there is an associated cost sometimes.
At least you have the DNG option if you want to go that route.
I have found this discussion very intriguing. It comes up every now and then. Here is my perspective...
Camera manufacturers keep bringing out (expensive) digital cameras that rely on proprietary RAW formats. Adobe has a RAW conversion plugin (ACR) that is offered for 'free.' Apparently this is not good enough, Now, folks expect Adobe to also provide RAW conversion support for new cameras in older versions of their software (e.g. Photoshop). And, if they don't they are seen as being exploitative.
I wonder why the camera manufacturers are not being called out on this matter. After all, they are the ones who are minting pots of money (with their multi-thousand dollar cameras) and yet cannot provide a RAW convertor that can do better than a free offering from Adobe.
Anil, I think device and software makers have the right to make a profit. It is not beneficial to them to continue support for legacy hardware or software. Are they being exploitative? No.
For the case at hand; Adobe ACR. I find it works well enough for me, but I can see how it may not for others. Sure, it would be nice if ACR support under older versions of Photo Shop for the new and future cameras was available, but that will not happen. So, I agree that the camera makers should provide RAW converters that meet or beat ACR as part of their camera/software bundle. If they did do this, ACR would become superfluous and cameras would be even more expensive than they already are.
The bottom line scenarios are...
Upgrade to the latest version of Photo Shop or Light Room.
Use the Camera OEM RAW converter if there is one
Purchase a third party converter such as the On1 or Capture One
Either way, we still have to pay up, or give up.
--P
Thanks everybody for your interesting comments.
Canon do supply DPP which converts their RAW files, it is free!
I will use this.
Keith,
Adobe assured me that CC would not work because of my slow internet speed.
Preston,
ACR 9.5 is not compatible with CS6
What I do not understand is why you need the latest version of PS for the latest version of Adobe Raw to work, it is just a way to make you continue spending.
I too will be interested in ON1
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11 repliesNothing indicated it had limits to its application.
I do not subscribe to CC as I do not want all they offer and it will not work with my extremely slow download speed here in South Africa.
Having waited forever I was a little annoyed to find that it will not work with CS6!
I had previously spent fortune on updates from CS1 onwards, customer loyalty means nothing to these people!
--P
Max
ACR Compatible Cameras.
Ken: According to the chart, the ACR version you need is 9.5
I am using CS6. The latest version of ACR for it is 9.1.1. My copy of CS6 is up to date.
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Here's more from PetaPixel on the On1 converter.
--P
Hi Ken:
I don't want to start a debate on the subscription model, but I'm not sure I understand this statement. You can subscribe to just Photoshop and Lightroom for $10 / Month. You don't need a fast internet connection. The software downloads and is installed on your machine. It only need to connect to the internet once every 30 days to validate that your subscription is still paid. Other than that it can run completely off line. It doesn't matter what vendor you choose, you are going to have to keep your software current. This problem arose because you are now shooting a 1DX Mark II, a brand new camera......
At least you have the DNG option if you want to go that route.
Camera manufacturers keep bringing out (expensive) digital cameras that rely on proprietary RAW formats. Adobe has a RAW conversion plugin (ACR) that is offered for 'free.' Apparently this is not good enough, Now, folks expect Adobe to also provide RAW conversion support for new cameras in older versions of their software (e.g. Photoshop). And, if they don't they are seen as being exploitative.
I wonder why the camera manufacturers are not being called out on this matter. After all, they are the ones who are minting pots of money (with their multi-thousand dollar cameras) and yet cannot provide a RAW convertor that can do better than a free offering from Adobe.
For the case at hand; Adobe ACR. I find it works well enough for me, but I can see how it may not for others. Sure, it would be nice if ACR support under older versions of Photo Shop for the new and future cameras was available, but that will not happen. So, I agree that the camera makers should provide RAW converters that meet or beat ACR as part of their camera/software bundle. If they did do this, ACR would become superfluous and cameras would be even more expensive than they already are.
The bottom line scenarios are...
- Upgrade to the latest version of Photo Shop or Light Room.
- Use the Camera OEM RAW converter if there is one
- Purchase a third party converter such as the On1 or Capture One
Either way, we still have to pay up, or give up.--P
Canon do supply DPP which converts their RAW files, it is free!
I will use this.
Keith,
Adobe assured me that CC would not work because of my slow internet speed.
Preston,
ACR 9.5 is not compatible with CS6
What I do not understand is why you need the latest version of PS for the latest version of Adobe Raw to work, it is just a way to make you continue spending.
I too will be interested in ON1