If you buy into the cc , there is a ps price and a combination PS and LR. The combin is about half expensive than the PS alone. Is the combination a full program set or is it a "lite" version of each program? I don't understand....
I have been using LR 5 and PSE 14 just fine, but I'am wondering if I will benefit from an upgrade to either a boxed PS6 or the cc versions. Happy to get your advice....
Posted by Keith Bauer on August 15, 2016 at 4:56 PM
Lucy:
The Photographers option that includes Photoshop CC and Lightroom provides complete, fully functional versions of both programs. This is the option that is $9.99 / month. There is no such thing as a "lite" version of Photoshop, although some would call that photoshop elements.
I can't tell you if you'd benefit from an upgrade. It depends on your needs and skills using the programs. The first thing that will get you is a new camera that is not support in LR5.
There are many new features/functions in the Develop module of LR CC that you're missing with LR5.
I would not recommend buying the boxed version of PS6. It is already being left behind on updates that are being incorporated into PS CC.
Posted by John Reed on August 16, 2016 at 10:41 AM
If you've been using LR5 & EL14 fine, it sounds like an upgrade may not be worth it, EXCEPT...sometimes you don't know what you're missing. And, there may be a better deal. Let me explain.
PS does some things faster, i.e. with fewer steps and less clicks, than EL. PS also does more things than EL. Photoshop works with 16bit files and Elements does not, at least for now. The RAW converter in PS has tons more options than the one in EL. There's more but let's stop here just to make the point and that is, until you have access to all of these additional functions and experience the added convenience and efficiency, you really can't imagine what you're missing. You may find, as do I, that you don't need all the power of the full blown PS but that's OK. All the other things I've noted still make your editing life lots easier.
As for PS CS6 and LR5, I agree with Keith. CS6 is still super and lots of people, including many on this site who may chime in, still use it and are satisfied. But LRCC is way better than either boxed LR6 or LR5. So, if going to upgrade to LRCC, why not get PS at the same time? Ten bucks a month is not that much of a strain for the benefits gained.
Now the possible better deal. I teach LR and at my last class a few weeks ago, one of the students said she got the Adobe Photo Plan for only $7.99 instead of $9.99 because she was a new subscriber. I have not confirmed this but I mention it because if true and still a valid offer, wow, you really can't pass it up.
It would be nice if Adoobie offered a small price for PS-CC only. I have no need for Lightroom. I am currently using CS6, Nik, and TK's masks actions. That is all I need, since I use another DAM application.
@Keith: If I do opt for the PS-CC/LR subscription, do have to download and install LR along with PS-CC, or can I simply download and install PS-CC? Thanks!
--P
Posted by Keith Bauer on August 17, 2016 at 7:59 PM
Preston
you can just install PS if that is all you want. You are not required to install LR if not desired.
One more question: Does the download include both applications, or an I choose to download PS-CC only? The reason I ask is I have a glacially slow DSL, and big downloads take an age, so if I can reduce the size, I am happier.
--P
Posted by Keith Bauer on August 18, 2016 at 5:02 PM
The Creative Cloud Desktop App is the thing that controls all of the interface to Adobe's CC applications. You install that applicaiton (it is pretty small). Then from that you log into your CC account. That is how Adobe then knows what applications you have subscribed to. From the "Apps" tab, you get to choose what applications you install, and hence, download. So, long answer to your question, but you get to choose what you even download.
Thanks for your excellent clarification on this! I have not decided to jump in to PS-CC at this point, but your info certainly helps.
Edit 09/07: Yesterday I bit, and subscribed to Adobe CC. After a lengthy download due to my slow DSL, installed PS-CC, and opted to not install LR.
Everything went well, including installing TK's latest Action Panel and the Nik Collection. All appear to be working as they should. I have not had much time to really dive in a play around, but so far, so good.
I did notice the price difference between the 'single app' price and the 'photographer's price'. It is kinda weird that Adobe would do it this way, however...
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8 repliesI have been using LR 5 and PSE 14 just fine, but I'am wondering if I will benefit from an upgrade to either a boxed PS6 or the cc versions. Happy to get your advice....
The Photographers option that includes Photoshop CC and Lightroom provides complete, fully functional versions of both programs. This is the option that is $9.99 / month. There is no such thing as a "lite" version of Photoshop, although some would call that photoshop elements.
I can't tell you if you'd benefit from an upgrade. It depends on your needs and skills using the programs. The first thing that will get you is a new camera that is not support in LR5.
There are many new features/functions in the Develop module of LR CC that you're missing with LR5.
I would not recommend buying the boxed version of PS6. It is already being left behind on updates that are being incorporated into PS CC.
PS does some things faster, i.e. with fewer steps and less clicks, than EL. PS also does more things than EL. Photoshop works with 16bit files and Elements does not, at least for now. The RAW converter in PS has tons more options than the one in EL. There's more but let's stop here just to make the point and that is, until you have access to all of these additional functions and experience the added convenience and efficiency, you really can't imagine what you're missing. You may find, as do I, that you don't need all the power of the full blown PS but that's OK. All the other things I've noted still make your editing life lots easier.
As for PS CS6 and LR5, I agree with Keith. CS6 is still super and lots of people, including many on this site who may chime in, still use it and are satisfied. But LRCC is way better than either boxed LR6 or LR5. So, if going to upgrade to LRCC, why not get PS at the same time? Ten bucks a month is not that much of a strain for the benefits gained.
Now the possible better deal. I teach LR and at my last class a few weeks ago, one of the students said she got the Adobe Photo Plan for only $7.99 instead of $9.99 because she was a new subscriber. I have not confirmed this but I mention it because if true and still a valid offer, wow, you really can't pass it up.
Hope this helps.
JR
@Keith: If I do opt for the PS-CC/LR subscription, do have to download and install LR along with PS-CC, or can I simply download and install PS-CC? Thanks!
--P
you can just install PS if that is all you want. You are not required to install LR if not desired.
One more question: Does the download include both applications, or an I choose to download PS-CC only? The reason I ask is I have a glacially slow DSL, and big downloads take an age, so if I can reduce the size, I am happier.
--P
Edit 09/07: Yesterday I bit, and subscribed to Adobe CC. After a lengthy download due to my slow DSL, installed PS-CC, and opted to not install LR.
Everything went well, including installing TK's latest Action Panel and the Nik Collection. All appear to be working as they should. I have not had much time to really dive in a play around, but so far, so good.
I did notice the price difference between the 'single app' price and the 'photographer's price'. It is kinda weird that Adobe would do it this way, however...
--P