Posted by Ken Watkins on November 20, 2016 at 7:50 AM
All of my previews have gone soft in Bridge, since I updated to CC 2017
The only way to see if they are in focus is to use the loupe.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so does anyone have a resolution?
As an exention to Ken's question, what are the supposed Advantage of CC 2017? Are they going to stop support to CC6 any time soon ? I am REALLY displeased with the new Adobe requirements to pay monthly forevermore and want to stick my purchased with CS6 as long as possible.
Please forgive me for partially hijacking your pose..
Sandy
Ken, are you using a Mac, or PC. There is a thread at the Large Format Photography Forum that has comments about folks having issues with PSCC-2017 on Macs. Those on PC's with Win 10 are not having issues that I know of.
Sandy: I was a hold out on Creative Cloud, but finally bit the bullet. Like others, I am none to happy to pay $9.99/month, but I have found that PSCC is well worth it. Its performance is better than CS6 on Windows 10, and the tools are much 'smarter'. I use only PSCC. I have no need for Lightroom or Bridge since I do all my image management with another application. I did give adopting the pay-by-month a lot of thought, and since I use PS a lot, I figured that over time, I would save money on upgrades and not have to deal with upgrade mill. Just my 0.02.
Edit: Here is some sage advice when you update to PSCC-2017 (from a post at the LF Forum):
The one thing that you all need to know is that in Adobe's infinite wisdom, they wipe any previous CC version (along with your plugins) UNLESS you check the Advanced options at the Install window and UNCHECK the wipe option. You never ever want to wipe a previous version before you've fully tested the new one.
--P
Posted by Greg Vaughn on November 20, 2016 at 9:57 PM
I also have read about issues with PS 2017 so am holding off upgrading for a little while. Besides which, from what I read, most of the improvements in PS are more for graphic arts type people than photographers.
Sandy: Like Preston, I really resisted the CC subscription program at first. I finally figured out that over time the monthly fee added up to almost the same as I'd been paying for the regular releases of new versions of PS and LR, so I also bit the bullet. No regrets now. I always have access to the latest versions of PS, Camera Raw, Lightroom, and Bridge (all of which I use). Even if you entirely satisfied with the results you get from PS CS6, I think it won't be long before Adobe stops making the updates to Adobe Camera Raw compatible with CS6, and that will be a limiting factor for making the most of your raw captures.
Greg. I'm highjacking the conversation also. I have ltroom 5 and PS Elements 14 with NIK, Topaz and ON One plugins. Is the full PhotoShop worth going to the Cloud? I know, at one time, Mike Moats or Scott Kelby...forgot which one, said he only used LR and Elements. So, is it really worth the upgrade, since it would be silly, at this point, to buy an old version of PhotoShop?
Posted by John Reed on November 21, 2016 at 8:26 AM
Ken,
No issues so far here with PSCC2017 on Windows 10.
The rest,
Photoshop in any version has IMHO many more tools and features than most photographers will ever use or need. That said, what it does have that photographers WILL use are so amazing and SOOOOOO much better with full version than CS6 and any version of Elements that most will be much happier and more productive by subscribing. As with most people it seems I have a true love/hate relationship with Adobe and railed against having to pay every month but it's only a couple of Starbucks a month and it is well worth it.
Lucy,
While Adobe continues to hijack more features from full version PS and incorporate in Elements, Elements is still clunky with some tools and lacks some features that adds to the time and/or effort of workflow. If your photography is mainly for scrapbooking or Facebook posting, OK, Elements is good enough. If you're serious about your photography to the extent that you want the highest quality images with the least amount of effort or aggravation in post processing, the $10 a month is a bargain and you're not on the Cloud. The program is on your machine just like Elements. Your computer only need access the Cloud to verify your subscription once a month, and of course download the regular upgrades instead of having to wait a year for them. And your photos are not in the Cloud either unless you choose to put them there. Oh yeah, LRCC is better than LR5 also!
Ken, were you able to resolve the soft preview issue in Bridge?
John, I am happy to hear you have not had any issues with PSCC 2017 on Win 10. I have not yet installed it in order to give Adobe time to fix bugs.
You also make some very good points about CC, and Photo Shop specifically. I certainly agree that any photographer who is serious about image quality with the least amount of pain, Photo Shop is the way to go. As we all know, there is a learning curve, but Adobe has some nice tutorials, as do others, and there are folks here who have it dialed in, and can help.
Just an additional note: If you have PSCC or PSCS6, I encourage folks to purchase and install Tony Kuyper's Version 4 Actions Panel. It is quite comprehensive and makes doing many things in PS much easier. Tony has excellent tutorials on his site, and Shawn Bagshaw has a video tutorial series for it. Both are available from Tony's site, and the prices are reasonable. Highly recommended.
--P
Posted by Ken Watkins on November 25, 2016 at 8:43 AM
Thanks for all of the responses., I have still not found anything to resolve the softness of the previews, but have discovered that they are a lot better in lightroom!
Cheers
Discussion
7 repliesThe only way to see if they are in focus is to use the loupe.
Has anyone else experienced this and if so does anyone have a resolution?
Please forgive me for partially hijacking your pose..
Sandy
Sandy: I was a hold out on Creative Cloud, but finally bit the bullet. Like others, I am none to happy to pay $9.99/month, but I have found that PSCC is well worth it. Its performance is better than CS6 on Windows 10, and the tools are much 'smarter'. I use only PSCC. I have no need for Lightroom or Bridge since I do all my image management with another application. I did give adopting the pay-by-month a lot of thought, and since I use PS a lot, I figured that over time, I would save money on upgrades and not have to deal with upgrade mill. Just my 0.02.
Edit: Here is some sage advice when you update to PSCC-2017 (from a post at the LF Forum): --P
Sandy: Like Preston, I really resisted the CC subscription program at first. I finally figured out that over time the monthly fee added up to almost the same as I'd been paying for the regular releases of new versions of PS and LR, so I also bit the bullet. No regrets now. I always have access to the latest versions of PS, Camera Raw, Lightroom, and Bridge (all of which I use). Even if you entirely satisfied with the results you get from PS CS6, I think it won't be long before Adobe stops making the updates to Adobe Camera Raw compatible with CS6, and that will be a limiting factor for making the most of your raw captures.
- Greg
No issues so far here with PSCC2017 on Windows 10.
The rest,
Photoshop in any version has IMHO many more tools and features than most photographers will ever use or need. That said, what it does have that photographers WILL use are so amazing and SOOOOOO much better with full version than CS6 and any version of Elements that most will be much happier and more productive by subscribing. As with most people it seems I have a true love/hate relationship with Adobe and railed against having to pay every month but it's only a couple of Starbucks a month and it is well worth it.
Lucy,
While Adobe continues to hijack more features from full version PS and incorporate in Elements, Elements is still clunky with some tools and lacks some features that adds to the time and/or effort of workflow. If your photography is mainly for scrapbooking or Facebook posting, OK, Elements is good enough. If you're serious about your photography to the extent that you want the highest quality images with the least amount of effort or aggravation in post processing, the $10 a month is a bargain and you're not on the Cloud. The program is on your machine just like Elements. Your computer only need access the Cloud to verify your subscription once a month, and of course download the regular upgrades instead of having to wait a year for them. And your photos are not in the Cloud either unless you choose to put them there. Oh yeah, LRCC is better than LR5 also!
John, I am happy to hear you have not had any issues with PSCC 2017 on Win 10. I have not yet installed it in order to give Adobe time to fix bugs.
You also make some very good points about CC, and Photo Shop specifically. I certainly agree that any photographer who is serious about image quality with the least amount of pain, Photo Shop is the way to go. As we all know, there is a learning curve, but Adobe has some nice tutorials, as do others, and there are folks here who have it dialed in, and can help.
Just an additional note: If you have PSCC or PSCS6, I encourage folks to purchase and install Tony Kuyper's Version 4 Actions Panel. It is quite comprehensive and makes doing many things in PS much easier. Tony has excellent tutorials on his site, and Shawn Bagshaw has a video tutorial series for it. Both are available from Tony's site, and the prices are reasonable. Highly recommended.
--P
Cheers
Ken