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Color calibration issues. Need help

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Posted by Andrew Sentipal on January 22, 2017 at 11:40 AM
I bought a Lenovo ideapad 7oo laptop recently. Downloaded Adobe CC, McAfeee anti virus and Spyder3express. The colors looked washed out especially the reds after calibration. I thought the Spyder3express might be outdated so I bought Spyder5pro from B&H. No difference. Contacted the maker and they made suggestions with the biggest being brightening the screen. They provided optimum settings to match the laptop to the program. Did that and no change.

Contacted B&H photo and they had no ideas why the colors are off.

Lenovo was contacted and they know nothing about calibration.

Contacted McAfeee and they advised their products would not affect color calibration.

 I bought a new Dell desktop 2 months ago and calibrated with the Spyder3express and it looks great. Back to the makers of the Spyder products, sent them the list of programs that the computer starts with and  they had no suggestions. Checked one of my photos in the calibrated and uncalibrated  section at the end of the calibration process. No difference between them. Something on the computer is stopping the calibration software from putting the program on the LUT I think. I am no expert. Any thoughts ? Help would be appreciated. I bought the Colormunki and it will be delivered on Monday. Not sure it wil be any different.

Thaks
Posted by Jim Zablotny on January 22, 2017 at 12:22 PM
Hi,

Some hints on why reds are problematic can be found here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10026/the-lenovo-ideapad-y700-laptop-review/5 .  Have you checked under monitor settings on which profile is being loaded at startup?  I found some possible solutions mentioned here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series/Y700-15ISK-Screen-color-calibration/td-p/3441288 .  Apparently, some programs when run in full screen mode reset the monitor profile to default.  Hopefully you may find the answer provided in these links..................................Jim
Posted by Andrew Sentipal on January 22, 2017 at 6:09 PM
Thanks for the input. Will Colorminki work or is there no hope for professional calibration on this Lenovo model ? I will be trying the method Jim suggests with the link as it sounds like it might make a difference. 

All input appreciated.
Posted by Preston Birdwell on January 24, 2017 at 5:14 PM
Andrew,



I took a good look at the display test results in the article from Anandtech that Jim linked to. It appears that the color issues are due to the backlight used in the display: It is simply not cutting it, sad to say. Anandtech uses the best-of-the-best tools for its display tests and calibration. Therefore, I believe you will not get any better results calibrating with another tool and software.

--P







 
Posted by Andrew Sentipal on January 26, 2017 at 7:37 PM
Preston,

I have tried two Spyder products and Colormunki. None of them changes anything. Not sure why the folks at the help desk do not know about the problems with this particular Lenovo computer. I did increase the overall brightness and that helped quite a bit. The reds I guess will never be what they should be. Too bad this information was not available when i was looking for a laptop. Too much money to walk away from now. Thankfully I do 99% of my processing on my desktop and use the laptop for the occasional photo class or workshop.

Anyone reading this I recommend not buying the Lenovo ideapad 700 if you plan to process images with it.

Wow

Thanks

Andrew
Posted by Preston Birdwell on January 27, 2017 at 1:07 PM
<div>Andrew,</div>   <div>To check which ICC color Profile your screen is using, do the following:</div>
  1. Open Control Panel
  2. Select Color Management
  3. The current profile(s) should be listed.
  4. Ensure the "Use my settings for this device" is checked.
  5. If the profile you want to use is not listed, Click "Add"
  6. Select the profile you want to use from the list and then click "OK"
  7. Next, click "Set as Default"
<div>I am not familiar with the Spyder or Color Munki software, but if they allow it, set the Color Temperature (White Point) to 6506K (or D65) and run a new calibration. After doing that, Open Control again and check that the new profile is listed and set as 'Default'.
(Note: If there is more than one profile listed, go ahead and remove those you do not want. Sometimes, Windows can get get confused if there is more than one profile, so it is best to remove any old ones that may be in the list.)</div> <div>I hope some of this helps.
--P</div>