I hear you, Preston. I guess there is a point where what is considered big enough? For example, although my scanner will scan at 3200 without interpolation and with interpolation up to 6400. I usually scan the 4x5 inch at 1800-2000 and the 6x7 cm at 2400. The one or two 35mm I use I'll scan at 3200, but never use the higher level beyond 3200 where the interpolation is needed. I find if I scan the MF and LF beyond those sizes it just bogs the PC and PS down anyway. No doubt you can create a monster machine to handle larger, but why, unless wall murals are needed........
So, in the end your 90 or up to 100 meg count sure seems plenty big either scanned or sensor pixel count in my book.......
I hear Fred Flintstone has a camera for sale you guys . Think about shooting small things that are far away, and then cropping and still having a reasonably decent photo when you are done. Not everyone uses the whole frame, and the D800 at 37 Megapixels has proven to be one of the biggest successes in camera history. Computers are getting more powerful, memory is getting smaller and cheaper. This camera will be another winner. No doubt others will appear soon after the new Nikon shows up.
No disagreement on your points, Charlie. For those that want, need, and can afford the megapixel chase more power to them. It's what keeps the innovations going. As you mention the 37meg is excellent for most applications. The question would be, is 100meg large enough to stop the increase or not? Who knows?
As a side note, there are parallel worlds out there too. There were two new B&W films released recently by two new companies and Ektachrome is being re-released by Kodak shorty also. In fact there are 3 companies coming back to life. Kodak, Fuji, and Ilford are about to see Adox, Ferrania, and Beggar come back to life with their newly released products.......
APUG (Analog Photographers Users Group) alone has over 80,000 members and has usually over 1000 people on line at the site 7/24.
btw: I'd sent the link to your owl photo to my entire family last week, they all loved it. Very timely, my brother and I saw two huge owls last week out a J-tree. This week it was 4 hawks in the same area......
Thanks, Paul. I was just up there myself (now where'd you say those Owls were?). Seems like every other boulder patch had a kid standing on top of it.
I understand the parrallel world thing. I live in a horse town. If you want a gallon of milk, you can ride your horse in to town to get one. I still take the car, and I'm not going to buy a cow either. I guess the good news is that some of these newer cameras will soon be last year's model and will show up on the used market more frequently. I have three D800E bodies. One is modified for Astrophotography. Another one goes in a housing and is for underwater use, and then one I use for things like Bats, Owls, etc. where I am shooting at night or in low light. For all of these applications more pixels equals better photos. The D800E has proven to be the best camera for my use. The last body I paid $800.00 for on the used market, and I'm sure that will be dropping any minute now. Besides the pixels, the dynamic range and iso performance is pretty phenomenal. One way of thinking about it is that all I have to do is buy one new body and all of my lenses just got better.
Posted by Doug Koepsel on February 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM
I do enjoy my D810 now for landscapes. 72MP would certainly be nice for crop and detail. I have not seen any firm rumor mentioned yet on NikonRumors though. Production of the D810 has stopped, so there must be something in the pipeline.
Yep, a very valid point on the dynamic range and ISO range too. Something Velvia 50 is totally lacking......
@Charlie, the owls and then this week the hawks were on some remote rocks located off the GTR (Geology Tour Road). My brother and I get out there before sunrise once a week, (M-F only, no weekends), even summertime. Summertime with snake guards on of course.... In fact, I wish I'd used my snake guards two weeks back now, a darn cholla got my calf while hiking in the dark......
These avian are nothing very close at all, but totally a wonderful show. I've been fortunate enough to see a bobcat, big horn sheep, and a couple tortoise roaming out there over many years I've been going out there.
Anyway, photography overall seems to be alive and well no matter what gear your slinging.
I was on that same road two weeks ago and was probably looking at the same pair of Red-tailed Hawks. It's possibly the best road in the park for photo opportunities imo.
@ Charlie, yes that whole area is where I've been working off and on for about 2 months now. I like to mix things up all around the park. As I saturate and use a site up I move to another one. Then, low and behold next time upon a return to the locale months or a year later it has a new look for me over that absence of time.
I still have a LONG time to do out at GTR location in the park as I just started that area awhile ago and have only been working one site to date. Too many spots and not enough time to get to them all, makes it really nice.
Posted by Igor Doncov on February 9, 2017 at 1:21 PM
I'm not seeing the advantages in quality of these high pixel images on NPN. When viewed online I think there is a point of diminishing returns due to the drop in quality from the greater reduction in size that's required. I can see how the quality of prints will improve, though, particularly large ones.
I'm not seeing the advantages in quality of these high pixel images on NPN. When viewed online I think there is a point of diminishing returns due to the drop in quality from the greater reduction in size that's required. I can see how the quality of prints will improve, though, particularly large ones.
Totally agreed, Igor. The posting web sizes has limitations in that respect. It would be as you point out for print enhancements or their size overall.
Discussion
11 repliesNikon 820 - 900 (72 Meg)
One thing is for sure, I cannot afford such a camera unless I am given one, or win the lotto!
It will be interesting to see what comes down the Nikon Pike!
--P
So, in the end your 90 or up to 100 meg count sure seems plenty big either scanned or sensor pixel count in my book.......
As a side note, there are parallel worlds out there too. There were two new B&W films released recently by two new companies and Ektachrome is being re-released by Kodak shorty also. In fact there are 3 companies coming back to life. Kodak, Fuji, and Ilford are about to see Adox, Ferrania, and Beggar come back to life with their newly released products.......
APUG (Analog Photographers Users Group) alone has over 80,000 members and has usually over 1000 people on line at the site 7/24.
btw: I'd sent the link to your owl photo to my entire family last week, they all loved it. Very timely, my brother and I saw two huge owls last week out a J-tree. This week it was 4 hawks in the same area......
I understand the parrallel world thing. I live in a horse town. If you want a gallon of milk, you can ride your horse in to town to get one. I still take the car, and I'm not going to buy a cow either.
@Charlie, the owls and then this week the hawks were on some remote rocks located off the GTR (Geology Tour Road). My brother and I get out there before sunrise once a week, (M-F only, no weekends), even summertime. Summertime with snake guards on of course....
These avian are nothing very close at all, but totally a wonderful show. I've been fortunate enough to see a bobcat, big horn sheep, and a couple tortoise roaming out there over many years I've been going out there.
Anyway, photography overall seems to be alive and well no matter what gear your slinging.
I still have a LONG time to do out at GTR location in the park as I just started that area awhile ago and have only been working one site to date. Too many spots and not enough time to get to them all, makes it really nice.
Totally agreed, Igor. The posting web sizes has limitations in that respect. It would be as you point out for print enhancements or their size overall.