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Punchbowl Falls...

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Posted by Scott Rosenberg on May 30, 2006 at 1:48 PM
hey guys, just back from a FANTASTIC (and wet) trip to portland - thanks for all the earlier tips, BTW. a quick question... punchbowl falls - HOW DO YOU GET DOWN TO SHOOT IT AT RIVER LEVEL?

the wife and i went on a great hike in eagle creek, and i was very pleased to see punchbowl falls on the map at the trailhead. however, when we got out there, we were on a high bluff looking down onto the falls. a little ways back up the trail, we descended a trail marked lower punchbowl, and this got us down to the river level, but not where the main fall comes down. do you just wade in all the way up stream to the main fall, or is there some trail we missed?

thanks!
scott
Posted by Marc Adamus on May 30, 2006 at 2:16 PM
There is not a trail you missed. There is no way at all to get closer to the falls than the spot you found. Sometimes ankle-deep wading will get you a nice view of the falls, but no closer. There is a tiny, steep trail that takes you to a perch above the falls also, but no spot to get closer below it. Wading in won't get you too far either. It gets really deep!
Posted by Scott Rosenberg on May 30, 2006 at 2:25 PM
hey marc, thanks for the clairification. i remember seeing somewhere many years ago a great b&w shot of punchbowl falls, from river level, looking straight down 'the corridor' to the falls. i guess the photographer took a swim to get that comp. brave guy... that water was REALLY cold!!
Posted by Ned Fenimore on May 30, 2006 at 2:32 PM
Sometimes the water level is low enough to walk right around the corner to see it all. It was very shallow when I was there Sunday, but just didn't take the wade to shoot it. The infamous log is still a deterrent for me! :biggrin:
Posted by Kosta Koeman on May 30, 2006 at 2:51 PM
Marc,

I'm sorry, but I must disagree with you. You can get to a bar closer to the falls by wading through the water. Now I'm 5'11" and I had to go tippy toe with my camera back over my head with the water up to my ears. Now this was in October of 2001, a low snow year.

I was wearing a wetsuit (a shorty), but man it was cold! The sad part is, I didn't like any of the shots. Oh well.... I guess I'm just sick in what I'm willing to do in order just to attempt a shot.

Kosta
Posted by Marc Adamus on May 30, 2006 at 3:26 PM
I've been down there at least fifty times in my life and at 5' 7" I have made it around the bend and to the bar only once. I've even floated out in a raft before - seriously! It has to be late in the year to wade out. Much lower water than it is now. You made it at the driest part of the year and on a low snow year too. The time I did it was September of 05', also a low snow year. If you are talking about the same bar I am, it puts you right next to the log and it's still limits the compositions even if you do make it out there. The log fell sometime in the mid 90's if I remember correctly and there are plenty of pics still around that do not show it. David Muench has a particuarly famous one. So, the B&W you saw may have been taken during pre-log conditions.
Posted by Bryan Swan on May 30, 2006 at 4:08 PM
Maybe you're all being more specific about "rounding the corner", but usually even when the creek is running high, wading 10 feet out from the gravel bar will yield clear views of the falls - the water usually isn't going to be more than knee deep. Late in the year you can do it without getting wet, but most of the time you'll have to wade. The shot I have posted on this page (http://www.waterfallsnorthwest.com/waterfall.php?num=1645&p=0) was taken standing in roughly shin deep water. I've NEVER had to get in water over my knees there.
Posted by Mark Hudon on May 30, 2006 at 4:15 PM
Not that I would want to be involved BUT I'd really like it if that log somehow disappeared. :toast: :jump: It would either take an act of god or stealth and a saw and it would be most likely dangerous and probably illegal.
Posted by Ned Fenimore on May 30, 2006 at 4:19 PM
Rounding the corner from my description is gettin far enough up the stream to gain a clear view of the falls. Some days there is dry rocky shore along the edge to walk upon.. :smile:
Posted by Marc Adamus on May 30, 2006 at 4:24 PM
Yes, I'm refering to reaching a location where you can see the falls without the log. One of the "bars" can be seen at the lower-right of Bryan's picture.
Posted by Zack Schnepf on May 30, 2006 at 5:09 PM
lol Mark. Marc and I were talking about that the last time we were hiking in the gorge. We agreed that it's most likely very illegal and dangerous, but it sure would be nice to see it gone. :wink:
Posted by John Lehmkuhl on May 30, 2006 at 6:34 PM
I'll chip in 20.00 for hiring someone from outta state :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Posted by Kosta Koeman on May 30, 2006 at 8:06 PM
I wouldn't want to be anywhere near that tree falling over. Though maybe someone loops a very, very long and thick rope at the top and some biker types at the other end to pull it over. Just imagine the impact, IF that would work. A saw (or ax at the top) is just so very dangerous.

Since I'm 35, I'm hoping it rots enough to fall out during my lifetime. As Marc pointed out, using a raft/swimming/etc. is simply not practical.

Kosta
Posted by Scott Rosenberg on May 31, 2006 at 2:08 PM
why would it be illeagle to 'correct' the view? you're not cutting down a live tree... are there gathering laws in oregon?
Posted by Mark Hudon on May 31, 2006 at 3:17 PM
Someone could put on crampons, be wearing some kind of harness and being belayed by someone anchored to a tree further up the hill side. They would go down there with a saw and cut away on the underside of the log. They wouldn't cut it all the way through but only a third or half way. They would leave and let mother nature do the rest over the course of the next couple years.
:toast:
Posted by Bryan Swan on June 1, 2006 at 4:58 AM
Its not in the wilderness area, so technically, someone could tote a small chainsaw up there and just rapel across the cliff face... :razz:
Posted by Mark Hudon on June 1, 2006 at 9:40 AM
You're hired.