My wife and I spent last weekend exploring Porphyry Basin for the first time thanks to Brian VanDenzen pushing me to go up there, he provided some great info including a warning about the road. We nearly didn't make it up there because when I saw the narrow section on the road I had serious 2nd thoughts about continuing any farther. I ended up walking the road first to get a better feel for what we were up against and when I was ready I kicked the wife and dog out of the truck and went on up. Obviously we made it but man were my nerves shot. Here are a few pics and a link to more on my site.
I informally named that narrow section of road Pucker Point. Took my Silverado full-size pick-up past there twice a few summers ago. The first time, I had to sit and contemplate the situation for a while (and make sure my affairs were in order back home) before deciding to go for it. Pulled the side-view mirrors in, closed my eyes and stepped on the gas. Only problem is, once you're past it, you have that sinking feeling when you realize you gotta do it again on the way out! Rattled me so much, I had to take Jerry Greer through there a week or so later. He wanted to get out of the truck, but luckily, I controlled the automatic door locks.
Beautiful shots, Adam. I've been meaning to go back, but don't have a trip to the San Juans for another few weeks. I'll use your shots for logistical inspiration!
Wow Adam, what a good catch for the weekend! I particularly like the second post here and the bottom photo from the linked page. They are perfect. Thanks for posting.
Todd,
We were going to spend a night up at Clear Lake but after going through the narrow section I figured I might as well get my monies worth before going through it again.
I like the first image posted here the best I think. I was not able to pull off a shot of that waterfall, and you pulled it off brilliantly. Nice work on all of the them!
Great work with great light - thanks for the inspiration.
Dave Showalter
Posted by Doug Andrews on July 10, 2006 at 10:38 AM
"Can we do the directions thing off-forum? Pretty please?"
Why? Its not like Porphyry Basin is a secret? Are we now supposed to privately email back and forth to find out specifics about a location? Kinda puts a crimp in a useful purpose of the forum.
Posted by Chuck Peacock on July 10, 2006 at 11:02 AM
I'll add my own "WOW, those are some purdy pictures"
Good shootin'!
Porphyry is no secret, and is readably findable with a map. But at the same time it's somewhat fragile area whos location need not be broadcasted out in masse. And given the dangers of the road, I think it's prudent to exchange the information as Todd suggests...
Posted by Doug Andrews on July 10, 2006 at 12:40 PM
Given the dangers of the road, how is exchanging the information via email more prudent than here? The info is still being exchanged. Seems to me if those who know how tricky the road is share that fact here in response to Jim Talaric's specific questions, it may prevent someone from attempting it who otherwise would think its just a simple drive off the paved road to get to a place to take nice pictures. Also I don't understand how if Porphyry Basin is no secret and easily findable with a map, how mentioning it here is a bad thing. Aren't Yankee Boy, American, and Governor Basin fragile areas as well? No one seems to be hesitant to discuss how to reach these places on this forum.
This is not some conspiracy to keep people out of the loop on RMNP. Simply a small dose of common sense, as thanks to Google, more people than just RMNP'ers can view these threads at any time long into the future. I don't have a problem generally giving directions to these places to the participants of this board, but what I worry about is some irresponsible clown who happens to come across this thread in 6-months who I've never met, never chatted, or otherwise don't at least have some sort of loose/minimal affliation with, taking the directions to a fragile, special place that I love, and tearing that place up.
There is a difference between communicating privately the loaction with people I like and respect (and that includes everyone I've encountered here at CNP/RMNP) and posting the location for anyone and everyone to view, including Joe Six-pack sitting in Texas right now with his gigantic 18-wheeler RV and a trailer with about 30 ATVs strapped to it, ready to tear-up that road and tear-up Porphyry Basin. If he wants to find Porphyry, more power to him, but it won't be because some information I provided to the public at large by posting in this thread.
But, I guess ultimately it's up to Adam to decide, both as a co-moderator and as the starter of this thread.
I want everyone to know that I'm not ignoring this discussion but I'm at work and actually working.
First, thank you all for the wonderful comments.
I didn't know that Porphyry Basin is a place that we wouldn't want to give directions to seeing as how members have (given directions & a map) in past discussions before the forum software change. I understand and appreciate everyone's concern in this matter, and out of respect for the member's of this group I will not be posting directions.
~Adam
Posted by Brent Murphy on July 10, 2006 at 5:09 PM
Great shots, Adam. Thanks for sharing.
Regarding directions, I'm with Adam. We had a lot of great photos on the forum last year from Darren and others, along with all kinds of info on how to get there, including maps, I believe. And no one complained then. Strange...
The way I found out how to get there was through private email with another member, not through maps posted here, and quite frankly, my memory must be bad because I don't recall maps being posted. EDIT, this is incorrect, see my next post!
I'm sorry if I'm sounding holier than thou. I really am not trying to sound like that. I'd be happy to share with any of the people in this thread more information privately, but I just personally will not post specific direction on these public forums from here on out for the reasons I previously stated (although I confess I've done so a few times in the past). And I'm not critizing though who choose to do so, as I've benefited from them in the past. Just a personal choice/preference.
Brent pointed out too me a link from last year where I actually linked to a map indicating where Porphyry is located. Thanks Brent for pointing this out.
Mea culpa! I guess I deserve to eat some crow on this one! My memory also sucks! I apologize for this critical oversight and my holier than thou attitude given I pointed out this location exaclty last year about this time! Feel free to email me, and I'll send you the link to the old thread and map!
I find is a bit interesting that we find providing helpful information (directions) to fellow photographers is in bad taste in this forum and yet we go on about a hikers "Sausage".
Jim
Posted by Arthur Lund on July 10, 2006 at 10:18 PM
Here is a place to access a little of the "super secret" information
Also check out the book: 4wd Adventures-Colorado by Peter Massey
and Jeanne Wilson. It is written up under the name of "Bullion
King Lake Trail". Forest Road 822 and San Juan County Road 65.
Posted by Jim Talaric on July 10, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Thanks Art. Very helpful.
J
Posted by Adam Schallau on July 10, 2006 at 10:40 PM
Brian,
No worries, we all make mistakes.
Posted by Adam Schallau on July 10, 2006 at 10:40 PM
I find is a bit interesting that we find providing helpful information (directions) to fellow photographers is in bad taste in this forum and yet we go on about a hikers "Sausage"
I think we all want to help and share information, but at the same time when you personally observe land abuse (careless ORV drivers) you become timid about releasing info that may lead to further damage or destruction of a beautiful area by introducing it to new users. Its not that it's in ‘bad taste’ but that we want to do what we can to protect special places so that we can all enjoy them in the future.
As for the second part of your comment I don't recall anyone going on about his sausage. Todd simply made a comical observation and left it at that.
Jim, please don't take this as a personal attack, I'm simply trying to clear this up so that we may return to our scheduled programming.
If anyone wants to discuss this any farther please take it off-line. As always I'll be available via email.
Sincerely,
Adam
Posted by Jim Talaric on July 10, 2006 at 11:03 PM
Thanks Adam, I fully understand. No worries!
Jim
Posted by Arthur Lund on July 10, 2006 at 11:21 PM
This thread bears a lot of resemblance to the attitudes of the U.S. Govt.
For example: A park ranger who won't tell you how to get to an arch.
A park ranger that won't tell you how to get to a petroglyph
A park ranger that won't tell you how to get to a cliff dwelling
Taking all the springs off of topo maps so you won't go there
Taking roads off of topo maps so you won't be tempted to go
etc. etc.
Posted by Adam Schallau on July 10, 2006 at 11:35 PM
This thread bears a lot of resemblance to the attitudes of the U.S. Govt.
For example: A park ranger who won't tell you how to get to an arch.
A park ranger that won't tell you how to get to a petroglyph
A park ranger that won't tell you how to get to a cliff dwelling
Taking all the springs off of topo maps so you won't go there
Taking roads off of topo maps so you won't be tempted to go
etc. etc.
Art you may want to re-read what has been said. It's not a matter of not wanting to tell, but that some people would rather give information via email and not in a public forum. It's their choice how they help.
Posted by Adam Schallau on July 10, 2006 at 11:44 PM
In general, I'm not a fan of witholding information, especially places like Porphyry. I believe perception is far worse than reality in most instances, and yes, then there's the whole "I want the place to myself" syndrome. I'm with ya, Doug. For crying out loud, this place sees multiple flower workshops held every year. I have pictures of 30+ people walking across the tundra there who arrived in three separate full size vans. And that's just from one particular stop. No one could ever prove to me the tundra is any worse for the wear. Certainly, anyone who happens to land on this site or others looking for directions isn't going to cause any worse harm.
Jim, you were not out of line by any stretch. Don't even hesitate going forward doing the same, either.
Sweet pictures, Adam.
It's not about 'keeping it to ourselves'. I see a greater number of outdoor enthusiasts that respect the environment and tread lightly but there are an increasing number of disrespectful idiots out there and some of our members are trying to limit the amount of public information available to them.
I encourage our membership to ask for help from other members in finding locations, but understand when they don't want to answer the question on-line and politely ask to take the discussion off-line.
Thanks Darren.
Posted by Jim Talaric on July 10, 2006 at 11:45 PM
Thanks Art. Very helpful.
J
Posted by Brent Murphy on July 10, 2006 at 11:54 PM
No worries, Brian. Hope I didn't offend.
But I thought I'd just add to this conversation by pointing out that keeping locations secret (whether they're already well-known or not) is most likely just not going to happen in this day and age. Besides, as photographers, we take all these beautiful photos of amazing places all over the world, and we don't expect people to wonder where they are? I'm sure there are still "secret" locations out there somewhere, but with all the photographic coffee table books, backpacking guidebooks, the internet, and hiking magazines that give you GPS coordinates for "the last secret places", these places are few and far between. So, it's great if the real "secret" places remain secret, but I don't think there should be an issue with telling people how to get to a fairly well-known photography location. After all, we're promoting all these places anyway. If you really want these places to remain unknown, stop taking pictures of them and publishing them online and in books and calendars.
Posted by Jim Talaric on July 10, 2006 at 11:58 PM
Thanks Art. Very helpful.
J
Posted by Jim Talaric on July 11, 2006 at 12:08 AM
Adam- I apologize for hijacking your thread. These are great pictures, and I've ruined with this drivel about posting locations, and I probably about to make it worse cause I can't shut-up.
Brent- You did not offend at all. When people spew BS, like I apparently was doing, someone needs to call them out. You did so in a polite and thoughtful manner.
Darren- You are the master of helping people out, and you've done so many times. You've helped me out a great deal with roads and locations, and I do appreciate it. You are a true credit to the boards. I went a little overboard on this thread on Porphyry, expecially given I linked a map last year (the same one Art linked in this thread). And you are right, it already sees a great deal of use. I guess there's no harm in sharing, I just must have been in a bad mood yesterday.
Posted by Doug Andrews on July 11, 2006 at 10:36 AM
Well I feel partly to blame here getting some folks, including myself, a little worked up over this. I already know exactly where Porphyry Basin is. What I really didn't see the harm in sharing here was the answer to the two question by Jim.
2. I have a Yukon XL...do you think I am going to make it over "Pucker Point" ?
3. If I decided to park before Pucker and walk about how far is it?
Question 2 because I have a stock 2WD XTerra and question 3 because I'd be perfectly happy not even attempting it if I knew how far the basin is from Pucker Point. Colorado off-roading is much more serious than what little off-roading I did back in Georgia. It took all my nerve just to make it up to the first waterfall at Yankee Boy Basin last year.
I'm just simply going to comment on Adam's images. WOW!!!!! would be the best thing I think! Wonderful images Adam! I'm jealous for sure!
I was down there last summer, and neither of the two AM's looked like that! Rained all night on me, and let me tell you, sleeping in the back of my truck at 12,400 in a storm is a trip! At least on my second morning it cleared by about 8AM.
Brent D.,
I think I found your tripod holes for a few of my pics.
It rained on us as well including my first morning there. I should have got up and shot but I just didn't feel up to dealing with the weather. The good light in my AM shots only lasted a matter of minutes before it started to look like mid-day. I planned ahead for my three AM locations so when the light happened I could quickly move between my spots and get the shots.
Your excellent images pushed me to get up there.
~Adam
Posted by Robert Helms on July 11, 2006 at 7:49 PM
Adam, I love the first and second image. I'd have to pick the first one overall since I've seen thousands of beautiful reflection images from CO. The flower image is nice as well, but I feel like I want more dof in the ULC.
First one is beautiful
Second is great.
This ranking may change after I vew the rest on the link you provided
I'm not going to ask for directions. I do find it odd that there have been over 400 views to this thread though.
Posted by Robert Helms on July 11, 2006 at 8:06 PM
Update:
Adam, your images were a complete pleasure to view. Retract my comment about the dof. The image may not have loaded completely when I first viewed it. It looked fine on your site.
The first one still does it for me. The more I look at it the more I enjoy it. I do think I prefer the Needles shot without the sunrise light in it. I think it is just a different view than the norm. I can say there isn't one I didn't at least like. I could walk the mountains of CO for days enjoying the beauty
Thanks for sharing
Posted by Bill Pelzmann on July 11, 2006 at 10:38 PM
SUPERB! I just love every image on your link.
I tried to get up there last August, but the monsoons killed those plans. Obviously, I need to retire so that I can just stay as long as it takes for the weather to clear.
Just outstanding! Thanks for sharing so many incredible images.
Dave Showalter
Posted by Rene Pirolt on July 12, 2006 at 12:54 PM
Adam,
Great images. I was up there several weeks ago, but did not get anything spectacular.
The most exciting part of the trip was that we had a major traffic jam right at the constriction. Two cars and one ATV coming down the road, and three cars going up – it was a mess!!
As for driving a Yukon XL – hmmm – might be a bit tight! I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and had to flip in my mirror closest to the rock wall to gain every inch I could.
Posted by Todd Caudle on July 13, 2006 at 10:16 PM
Wow, I didn't keep tabs on this thread, and it went somewhere! 50 posts? Geez, what did I go and start? Sorry guys.
Since I'm the one who mentioned swapping directions off-forum, let me explain my reasoning. First off, please note that I never mentioned the fragility of the place, I just didn't want to have the place overrun. Porphyry is not some super-secret location, but believe it or not, just a few years ago it was. I'd rather not see it become the next Yankee Boy Basin, but I also am somewhat reality-based, and know that information gets around. And I know you can't put toothpaste back in the tube, but I was just trying to avoid throwing up a billboard to such an awesome place when a simple e-mail between friends would do. Most of this could've easily been solved if Adam would've been a good soldier and posted really crappy pictures. However, his photos are so good that I think a lot of people will want to go there based on them. (Brent's tripod holes won't be the only ones filled during the next few weeks!) Therefore, this is all Adam's fault. Adam, go stand in a corner.
I look at this as similar to some of the special places Guy Tal reserves for those who approach him directly. In this case, I'm not trying to keep anyone out of the place, I'm just trying to keep the conversation peer-to-peer rather than worldwide.
This whole issue boils down to Art's false premise. This is not akin to a park ranger who won't direct you to a seldom-seen arch, no matter how much cajoling or outright bribery is involved. It's the difference between a park ranger telling you about a special place when asked, and a ranger posting pictures of that rare arch on the Web and including a detailed map to get there. Sure, everyone is entitled to go to the arch, but having it overrun by any yahoo with a Web browser and a lack of ethics would make it a less enjoyable experience for all of us who would treat the place with respect.
As for Art's links to maps and such, let me just say that I hope a thousand budding photographers step in front of your camera just as the light is at its best.
Posted by Adam Schallau on July 14, 2006 at 12:28 PM
Robert, Bill, Dave & Rene,
Thank you for your comments!
Todd,
I'll gladly accept full blame for this 'incident' and I look forward to creating future problems.
Discussion
50 repliesGuy
The 3 you posted here are great, and a lot of excellent shots on your web site. I really like #1 (posted here) for the unique comp.
Guy
Beautiful shots, Adam. I've been meaning to go back, but don't have a trip to the San Juans for another few weeks. I'll use your shots for logistical inspiration!
We were going to spend a night up at Clear Lake but after going through the narrow section I figured I might as well get my monies worth before going through it again.
Guy,
Thanks for the flower ID.
Thanks to everyone for the comments!
Love your shots from Porphyry Basin...especially "Three Needles Again" from your link. Now I'm hopped up to visit Porphyry.
Three Questions:
1. Can you give me general directions to the road to Porphyry?
2. I have a Yukon XL...do you think I am going to make it over "Pucker Point"
3. If I decided to park before Pucker and walk about how far is it?
Thanks,
Jim
Ken
Jim
richieV
Dave Showalter
Why? Its not like Porphyry Basin is a secret? Are we now supposed to privately email back and forth to find out specifics about a location? Kinda puts a crimp in a useful purpose of the forum.
Good shootin'!
There is a difference between communicating privately the loaction with people I like and respect (and that includes everyone I've encountered here at CNP/RMNP) and posting the location for anyone and everyone to view, including Joe Six-pack sitting in Texas right now with his gigantic 18-wheeler RV and a trailer with about 30 ATVs strapped to it, ready to tear-up that road and tear-up Porphyry Basin. If he wants to find Porphyry, more power to him, but it won't be because some information I provided to the public at large by posting in this thread.
But, I guess ultimately it's up to Adam to decide, both as a co-moderator and as the starter of this thread.
First, thank you all for the wonderful comments.
I didn't know that Porphyry Basin is a place that we wouldn't want to give directions to seeing as how members have (given directions & a map) in past discussions before the forum software change. I understand and appreciate everyone's concern in this matter, and out of respect for the member's of this group I will not be posting directions.
~Adam
Regarding directions, I'm with Adam. We had a lot of great photos on the forum last year from Darren and others, along with all kinds of info on how to get there, including maps, I believe. And no one complained then. Strange...
I'm sorry if I'm sounding holier than thou. I really am not trying to sound like that. I'd be happy to share with any of the people in this thread more information privately, but I just personally will not post specific direction on these public forums from here on out for the reasons I previously stated (although I confess I've done so a few times in the past). And I'm not critizing though who choose to do so, as I've benefited from them in the past. Just a personal choice/preference.
Brent pointed out too me a link from last year where I actually linked to a map indicating where Porphyry is located. Thanks Brent for pointing this out.
Mea culpa! I guess I deserve to eat some crow on this one! My memory also sucks! I apologize for this critical oversight and my holier than thou attitude given I pointed out this location exaclty last year about this time! Feel free to email me, and I'll send you the link to the old thread and map!
Jim
http://www.hometownlocator.com/DisplayCountyFeatures.cfm?FeatureType=basin&SCFIPS=08111
http://ocs.fortlewis.edu/redmountainproject/heritagedaymap.pdf
Also check out the book: 4wd Adventures-Colorado by Peter Massey
and Jeanne Wilson. It is written up under the name of "Bullion
King Lake Trail". Forest Road 822 and San Juan County Road 65.
J
No worries, we all make mistakes.
I think we all want to help and share information, but at the same time when you personally observe land abuse (careless ORV drivers) you become timid about releasing info that may lead to further damage or destruction of a beautiful area by introducing it to new users. Its not that it's in ‘bad taste’ but that we want to do what we can to protect special places so that we can all enjoy them in the future.
As for the second part of your comment I don't recall anyone going on about his sausage. Todd simply made a comical observation and left it at that.
Jim, please don't take this as a personal attack, I'm simply trying to clear this up so that we may return to our scheduled programming.
If anyone wants to discuss this any farther please take it off-line. As always I'll be available via email.
Sincerely,
Adam
Jim
For example: A park ranger who won't tell you how to get to an arch.
A park ranger that won't tell you how to get to a petroglyph
A park ranger that won't tell you how to get to a cliff dwelling
Taking all the springs off of topo maps so you won't go there
Taking roads off of topo maps so you won't be tempted to go
etc. etc.
Art you may want to re-read what has been said. It's not a matter of not wanting to tell, but that some people would rather give information via email and not in a public forum. It's their choice how they help.
It's not about 'keeping it to ourselves'. I see a greater number of outdoor enthusiasts that respect the environment and tread lightly but there are an increasing number of disrespectful idiots out there and some of our members are trying to limit the amount of public information available to them.
I encourage our membership to ask for help from other members in finding locations, but understand when they don't want to answer the question on-line and politely ask to take the discussion off-line.
Thanks Darren.
J
But I thought I'd just add to this conversation by pointing out that keeping locations secret (whether they're already well-known or not) is most likely just not going to happen in this day and age. Besides, as photographers, we take all these beautiful photos of amazing places all over the world, and we don't expect people to wonder where they are? I'm sure there are still "secret" locations out there somewhere, but with all the photographic coffee table books, backpacking guidebooks, the internet, and hiking magazines that give you GPS coordinates for "the last secret places", these places are few and far between. So, it's great if the real "secret" places remain secret, but I don't think there should be an issue with telling people how to get to a fairly well-known photography location. After all, we're promoting all these places anyway. If you really want these places to remain unknown, stop taking pictures of them and publishing them online and in books and calendars.
J
J
Brent- You did not offend at all. When people spew BS, like I apparently was doing, someone needs to call them out. You did so in a polite and thoughtful manner.
Darren- You are the master of helping people out, and you've done so many times. You've helped me out a great deal with roads and locations, and I do appreciate it. You are a true credit to the boards. I went a little overboard on this thread on Porphyry, expecially given I linked a map last year (the same one Art linked in this thread). And you are right, it already sees a great deal of use. I guess there's no harm in sharing, I just must have been in a bad mood yesterday.
2. I have a Yukon XL...do you think I am going to make it over "Pucker Point" ?
3. If I decided to park before Pucker and walk about how far is it?
Question 2 because I have a stock 2WD XTerra and question 3 because I'd be perfectly happy not even attempting it if I knew how far the basin is from Pucker Point. Colorado off-roading is much more serious than what little off-roading I did back in Georgia. It took all my nerve just to make it up to the first waterfall at Yankee Boy Basin last year.
I was down there last summer, and neither of the two AM's looked like that! Rained all night on me, and let me tell you, sleeping in the back of my truck at 12,400 in a storm is a trip! At least on my second morning it cleared by about 8AM.
Thanks for sharing!!
I think I found your tripod holes for a few of my pics.
It rained on us as well including my first morning there. I should have got up and shot but I just didn't feel up to dealing with the weather.
Your excellent images pushed me to get up there.
~Adam
First one is beautiful
Second is great.
This ranking may change after I vew the rest on the link you provided
I'm not going to ask for directions. I do find it odd that there have been over 400 views to this thread though.
Adam, your images were a complete pleasure to view. Retract my comment about the dof. The image may not have loaded completely when I first viewed it. It looked fine on your site.
The first one still does it for me. The more I look at it the more I enjoy it. I do think I prefer the Needles shot without the sunrise light in it. I think it is just a different view than the norm. I can say there isn't one I didn't at least like. I could walk the mountains of CO for days enjoying the beauty
Thanks for sharing
I tried to get up there last August, but the monsoons killed those plans. Obviously, I need to retire so that I can just stay as long as it takes for the weather to clear.
Dave Showalter
Great images. I was up there several weeks ago, but did not get anything spectacular.
The most exciting part of the trip was that we had a major traffic jam right at the constriction. Two cars and one ATV coming down the road, and three cars going up – it was a mess!!
As for driving a Yukon XL – hmmm – might be a bit tight! I drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and had to flip in my mirror closest to the rock wall to gain every inch I could.
Since I'm the one who mentioned swapping directions off-forum, let me explain my reasoning. First off, please note that I never mentioned the fragility of the place, I just didn't want to have the place overrun. Porphyry is not some super-secret location, but believe it or not, just a few years ago it was. I'd rather not see it become the next Yankee Boy Basin, but I also am somewhat reality-based, and know that information gets around. And I know you can't put toothpaste back in the tube, but I was just trying to avoid throwing up a billboard to such an awesome place when a simple e-mail between friends would do. Most of this could've easily been solved if Adam would've been a good soldier and posted really crappy pictures. However, his photos are so good that I think a lot of people will want to go there based on them. (Brent's tripod holes won't be the only ones filled during the next few weeks!) Therefore, this is all Adam's fault. Adam, go stand in a corner.
I look at this as similar to some of the special places Guy Tal reserves for those who approach him directly. In this case, I'm not trying to keep anyone out of the place, I'm just trying to keep the conversation peer-to-peer rather than worldwide.
This whole issue boils down to Art's false premise. This is not akin to a park ranger who won't direct you to a seldom-seen arch, no matter how much cajoling or outright bribery is involved. It's the difference between a park ranger telling you about a special place when asked, and a ranger posting pictures of that rare arch on the Web and including a detailed map to get there. Sure, everyone is entitled to go to the arch, but having it overrun by any yahoo with a Web browser and a lack of ethics would make it a less enjoyable experience for all of us who would treat the place with respect.
As for Art's links to maps and such, let me just say that I hope a thousand budding photographers step in front of your camera just as the light is at its best.
Thank you for your comments!
Todd,
I'll gladly accept full blame for this 'incident' and I look forward to creating future problems.