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UPDATED IMAGE - ID help needed

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Posted by Graeme Lee on August 4, 2006 at 3:31 PM
UPDATED IMAGE - ID help needed
Could do with some ID on this one please. Perhaps a Wood Warbler?

Taken at Budleigh Salterton today. Really miffed that I was watching some Reed Warblers getting food for their chick when this one flew into the bush next to me. I had my 2x on and managed 4, pretty much full frame shots on AI servo, resulting in the other frames having either tail or legs clipped out of frame :frown: Bit of inexperience not changing instantly to One shot mode and framing a good "one" properly :rolleyes: It didn't hang around for long or sit very still!

Anyway, I find the BG quite distracting but as I haven't a shot of 'whatever this is' it'll do until next time.

Comments and critique welcome.

Graeme

techs:
1d2, 500/4 is+ 2x, ISO 200, f8, 1/500th, g1325, AS b1

Posted by Phillip Tomkinson on August 4, 2006 at 4:22 PM
Hi a nice image of a willow warbler.

Phillip.
:toast: :wavey:
Posted by Rob Chace on August 4, 2006 at 5:48 PM
Would agree with Phillip on this one. Definitely an immature Willow warbler. (Although legs are darker than normal.) Back ground shows its normal habitat & is quite pleasing to my eye.
Regards Rob. :toast:
Posted by Graeme Lee on August 4, 2006 at 6:20 PM
Thanks Philip and Rob. I've got a crappy book that doesn't show the Willow Warbler quite so yellow in colour. Besides my crappy book, I'm pretty crap at IDing them anyway. :rolleyes:

Cheers, Graeme
Posted by Justin on August 4, 2006 at 6:35 PM
Hi Graeme,

What a really attractive shot.
I particularly love the soft even lighting which really shows off the birds colour and markings superbly.
Excellent pallette of colours too,yellow,green and blue all work really well together.

:toast:
Posted by Mike Smith on August 5, 2006 at 2:33 AM
Mmm not so sure on this one, I would actually err on the side of a juvenile chiffchaff from primary wing projection length as it looks like it doesn't stretch over the tail and of course the dark legs......

Wood warblers are silvery white underneath with a definate cut off from the lemon yellow chest to white underparts, when you see one it is dead obvious

Willow warbler have pale legs and a longer primary wing projection which stretches over the tail

The one which throws the spanner in the works and is now turning up quite occasionaly in is the continental iberian chiffchaff which is more like a willow warbler but sings differently to both the "chip chop" chiffchaff and descending warble of the willow warbler

Mike
Posted by David Kjaer on August 5, 2006 at 3:31 AM
Hi Graeme

Nice clean shot of a difficult Warbler to shoot. It is definately a Phylloscopus but which one. I very much favour Willow Warbler (immature) as the tertials in the wing are about the same length as the primary projection and the legs are quite pale although these can vary.

What ever it is I like it!

David :toast: :toast:
Posted by Colin Pickett on August 5, 2006 at 8:55 AM
Haven't a clue what it is but I like it, the soft even light has helped bring out the feather detail and colour. :toast: :toast:
Posted by Rob Howard on August 5, 2006 at 2:28 PM
Hi Graeme,

I would say Chiffchaff as it does also show faint brown/buff on the breast.

Nice image though.

Well caught

Regards

Rob
Posted by Graeme Lee on August 5, 2006 at 4:38 PM
Thanks for the help and comments.

I 'think' this is the same bird. It was around that area, so maybe this will help a bit in identifying it?

Graeme
Posted by Phillip Tomkinson on August 5, 2006 at 5:25 PM
willow warbler.

Phillip.
:toast: :wavey:
Posted by Rob Howard on August 5, 2006 at 5:44 PM
Hi Graeme,

This is not the same bird as your first post, this does look like a Willow warbler.

Compare the plumage patterns around the head/eye and on the upper breast with your first post, also the beak.

Regards

Rob
Posted by Graeme Lee on August 5, 2006 at 6:02 PM
Rob, I did look at all those things and assumed it was the same bird :biggrin:

I did say I was crap at ID's :rolleyes:

Thanks for the responses. So that's settled then. Top one is a Chiff Chaff and bottom image is a Willow Warbler? :confused:

Anyone else want to throw in their opinions?

Graeme
Posted by Phillip Tomkinson on August 5, 2006 at 7:44 PM
Hi they are both willow warblers, the primary projection on the top one does look right for one of this year's young, also I have never ever seen a chiffchaff with pale fleet even young ones, the leg colour can be very variable on willow warblers from quite dark to very pale.

Phillip
:toast: :wavey: