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by Lon Overacker

Gallery: LandscapePosted September 4, 2010374 views37 comments
IF you would indulge me for a minute, I'd like to take a step out in to left field and not talk about the image, but more what is it that compels me to capture such simple and perhaps meaningless scenes.

Actually, all our images have meaning to each of us and that's what I'd like to share here.

Each of us have our own connections with nature and photography. Many of us have our little call signs, niches or theme's about our photography. For many it's of course naturally about the light, it's the wildness, the wilderness, the healing of nature and the inner connection that many feel with the natural world. It's conservation or simply a combination of all of these things. For me, a big part of my connect is about "capturing time."

Like the Universe, "time" is something that is just hard to wrap your head around. To ponder the expanse of space and of our existence, is well, certainly beyond our ability to explain. We are here, but for a nano second in this universe of time. So many, many times I find myself out in great outdoors pondering things like, "Has anyone ever stood on this very rock," or "I wonder if this rock, tree or leaf has ever been photographed." Silly perhaps, but mind boggling to me, just like infinity.

While photographing this little section of the Merced River, I wondered about the millions, probably billions of molecules, mineral particles rushing through this frame, captured, frozen in time in this image. I wonder - where those molecules of water are now. Many reached the sea and have come full circle in the water and weather patterns coming back again as rain, snow in a stream somewhere in the Sierra or perhaps the Rock Mountains; or even carried across the globe in the jet stream to be frozen again in the Arctic. Other molecules are holed up in a local Reservoir, or have quenched the lands that bring us the food we eat. I wonder... and yet I know that never again throughout the entire universe of time, will these elements fall together in the same exact way or the same time ever again.

This image may never sell and I may never even print this. But I'm happy knowing that I have a piece of the Universe forever captured in a little piece of film.

Next time you're out capturing a beautiful moment, think about time. Think about how fleeting it is and how you can capture a moment of it, but yet you can never stop it.

Ok, feel free to tell me it's time for a padded cell and some meds.

thanks!

Lon

Edit: DOH! It's been so long since I've posted I forgot how to add the larger version and just put the same size up. Ignore the larger version and click here. This time thing got me all messed up.

Comments

37 comments
Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on September 4, 2010 at 7:56 PM
I don't know why, but photography has a similar effect on me. It's actually called the "Tony Kuyper effect" because I think I was the first photographer to experience it and so I get to name it. Welcome to the club. Sure helps make good pictures, doesn't it. :jump:

Seriously though, it's not the number of molecules you put in a picture, it's how you arrange them in the frame, and this is really well done. The shapes and textures here make me think of John Sexton, only in color.

I think it's interesting about how photography takes us beyond light. It helps us be in places that really don't exist, except for us as individuals. We all have our own way of getting there. To the best of our knowledge, only humans can have the perceptions like you describe. We are the Universe knowing Itself for possibly the first time (rough quote from Carl Sagan). There is a lot of humanity associated with photography, and though some people would argue that you can't see this in a picture, I for one would disagree.
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Comment posted by Lon Overacker on September 4, 2010 at 7:59 PM
Damn, and I thought uncovered some secret of the Universe. Turns out all I'm doing is just copying another photographer..... who knew? :rolleyes: :wink:
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Eva McDermott on September 4, 2010 at 8:05 PM
Hmmmm! Are you a scientist Lon? .....because some of the same thoughts go through my head while photographing. I am a scientist and not an engineer, maybe an artist, sometime, if people agree. I also wonder where things came from and where they are going. I wonder at the changing landscape (especially at my favorite coastal places). An outcropping of rocks here today, gone tomorrow, only to re-emerge two years later on Cape Breton. Changing tide pools in Maine...... My amazment never ends.... at the beautiful things nature allows us to see and as they change.

As far as your image, I love the motion and the upper dark rock really anchors everything wonderfully.
Registered on January 4, 2009, 1015 Posts, 13229 Comments
Comment posted by John Fan on September 4, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Photography is our way of understanding and communicating with nature.
John
Registered on August 24, 2010, 135 Posts, 489 Comments
Comment posted by Matt Anderson on September 4, 2010 at 8:15 PM
Dude.

Sitting in an airport, drinking my second Stella Artois at a Macaroni Grill, perusing this wonderful image on my iPhone; I realize that your shot was taken exactly where my shot was taken from June you talented hack. 

Kidding Kidding !

My shot was taken (and mis-labeled) on a river near Tioga Pass. Also, I like yours much more!

Nice shot my friend. I had very similar feelings while hiking Taylor Creek - Zion this past Sunday. What a rewarding and passionate obsession er hobby we all do like a love sick addict. 

Blink, it's gone. 
Registered on September 6, 2007, 346 Posts, 2696 Comments
Comment posted by Paul Breitkreuz on September 4, 2010 at 8:21 PM
Yep, all that and then some too. :cool: I suspect anyone who would take the time and really concentrate on this small area it could provide an amazing hypnotic feeling for them, more so in person no doubt. The overall movement would seem soothing to me, and yes, there the mind can really start to conjure up many thoughts. For me, it's always the geological formations we see in nature or an image someone may post that can start the propellers spinning as to how the formation became and what forces drove it to it's pinnacle.
By the way, this image is very impressive and the rocks provide and excellent focal point for the scene. Very nice indeed. :toast:
Registered on February 25, 2006, 525 Posts, 8448 Comments
Comment posted by Nicolaus Wegner on September 4, 2010 at 8:50 PM
Good thing the universe is so large, we'll never run out of things to photograph. Time wise, well, make the most of that lil nano second you have before you join those molecules in the great cycle of things. ;]

Another up close and personal shot, definitely your style Lon, and it's all your own. Nice work.
Registered on February 21, 2010, 133 Posts, 1509 Comments
Comment posted by Youssef Ismail on September 4, 2010 at 10:09 PM
Lon,

If you think you need meds, then I should be committed :jump:

It is exactly this very thing that drives not only my photography but my whole life. I ponder about this stuff it seems all to often, but it also keeps me from getting to bored. You only need to read any of my blog posts to see my thinking process behind almost any of my photos. Its these very thoughts that I think move photography from just a past time and hobby to an art that is unique to the artist behind the lens. Sometimes the photo conveys what is inside of us, our thoughts, emotions and ponderings and sometimes it does not, and when it doesn't then we come back over and over again trying to capture that conveyance.

The near exact thoughts you had ran through my mind while I made this photo.

Now with regards to this image you have, I love the counter flow from both sides, the subtle overcast light and the exposure you have chosen gives just the right amount of action in the water to make it feel like it is happening as I look at it.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 474 Posts, 5555 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Metternich on September 4, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Very nice Lon! And great commentary. :toast:

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It’s the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead, his eyes are closed." Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)

The awe of the beyond (to keep it a little ambiguous and a bit more generic). For me it is certainly a spiritual thing that helps point me to the much "bigger picture" and my main purpose in life and time and eternity.

And we (photographers) try to bring back a little of the bigger experience to help touch and bless others. A great privilege.

Side note on the image, I wonder if this image could handle a little more saturation?

BTW, when I clicked on "View Larger Photo" it was the same size. :smile:
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Comment posted by Andrew Finlayson on September 4, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Wonderful textures and subtle colours. Thanks for the insight also :)
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Comment posted by William Vrolyk on September 5, 2010 at 1:06 AM
A very thought provoking commentary, Ron. I agree with Tony's comment,
only humans can have the perceptions like you describe
. It is what gives meaning to all of creation. The world is full of wondrous things for us to contemplate. I would not have thought of a turbulant section of water like this in terms of molecules but how relentless this rush of water is as it thunders on day in and day out for countless years. How many gallons of water pours through here every minute? How did it all get here?

Will
Edmonton, Alberta
Canada
Registered on November 1, 2003, 278 Posts, 3524 Comments
Comment posted by Gary McGhee on September 5, 2010 at 8:52 AM
This is great Lon, everything just flows. I really like this type of photo and this works for me.

Gary.
Registered on April 15, 2010, 142 Posts, 2416 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on September 5, 2010 at 9:32 AM
I really enjoyed reading that Lon, and all the rest of the comments following it. So many of us seem to have those same feelings and thoughts. I for one could never word it as good as you just did.
This picture is wonderful. Great composition and really nice movement of the water. Perfect shutter speed for this capture. I like this very much. Well done!

Nick Bristol
Lone Rock, WI
Registered on February 1, 2004, 752 Posts, 14140 Comments
Comment posted by Harley Goldman on September 5, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Wow, heavy thoughts. Next time, share a little of that bud, would ya? Quit bogarting! :biggrin:

Yep, often wondered in wanderings in the wilderness if anyone had been there, seen that, etc. Never got down to the molecular level, but certainly good ponderings (is that a word?).

I like the image. It seems a little tight on top, with the upper white water pushing the frame, but that is minor. Looks really nice.
Registered on November 19, 2003, 586 Posts, 11271 Comments
Comment posted by Stephen Cunliffe on September 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM
You have painted the water with beautiful brush-strokes. It's a gorgeous image and I would, if you will forgive me, call it 'timeless.'
Registered on May 25, 2009, 62 Posts, 202 Comments
Comment posted by Mohsen Al-Dajani on September 5, 2010 at 10:38 AM
The water is going everywhere here..I really like it, never seen something like this.
Registered on August 23, 2007, 160 Posts, 432 Comments
Comment posted by Bruce King on September 5, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Nice commentary Lon. A lot of kindred spirits here seem to agree with your philosophizing. Did I just invent a new word? It is the connection with nature and the way it allows me to "feel" the bigger picture that makes photography so appealing to me. My previous way to connect was flyfishing for trout. The insect hatches, the ocassional trout and the beauty and solitude of the river really makes me feel a part of it all. However the last couple of outings I packed my photo gear and actually spent less than an hour fishing, the rest of the time I was standing behind my tripod. :biggrin:
Beautiful image BTW. :toast:
Registered on January 14, 2010, 276 Posts, 2212 Comments
Comment posted by Dan Baumbach on September 5, 2010 at 11:46 AM
The name of my domain isn't timelesslight.com for nothing.

No one has mentioned the image, but I really like the large version and it saddens me to see it's quality and reflect how little LF I'm shooting these days. Then again if most of your subjects involved climbing steep trails and LF lenses of 450mm or more, you'd be shooting digital too.

- Dan.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 473 Posts, 7980 Comments
Comment posted by Chris Chamberlain on September 5, 2010 at 12:14 PM
I agree with you about the scene being simple, but meaningless no!!! And as far as this subject matter goes, I don't think it can get much better than this. Maybe with some spectacular warm reflected light, hmmmmm. I agree also that we all have our own little personal reasons why a scene is worthy of capture and appreciation. I like the simple things, and I find my refuge in them. I think it's too bad sometimes that scenes like this get overlooked by those in pursuit of the next jaw dropping image. I like the big impact stuff too, don't get me wrong. But it's the thought process that goes along with these type of scenes that really draws me to nature. To quote a beer commercial from the 80's, "It's the water, and a lot more"!!!

Chris
Registered on March 13, 2007, 500 Posts, 8365 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on September 5, 2010 at 1:35 PM
Thanks for the comments and insightful thoughts. I had hoped to create a dialogue or at least give people something to think about rather than color, sharpness and crops... :wink:

Tony, William and others - Totally agree, without the human element, there would be no pondering. I had original written, "Each of us have our own connections with nature, humanity and photography." The for some reason I dropped the humanity. Not sure why.

It's like the old riddle, "If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?" We could change that around and ask, "Does time exist if no one is hear to measure or witness it?"

Eva - educated as an Engineer and I'm mostly analytical, but my enjoyment comes from the inquisitive and creative side.

Youssef and all, I shouldn't be surprised that many of us have similar thoughts and experiences, but they are never quite exactly the same - and that's the beauty of it - no two of us are exactly the same.

Harley - next time I'll try and share a little. If you would just snap out of your daze.... :biggrin: sorry - couldn't resist. But most of the time it's at the molecular level, but occasionally I go sub-atomic. :wink:

Dan - I wanted that domain, but it was taken...

Thanks folks! Great stuff.
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Ant on September 5, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Beautiful, beautiful image. I love the texture of the little rivulets, the flying drops, and the fact that you have created a picture which is, at the same time, perfectly defined and crisp and continuously flowing... Time and photography, yes, a theme that has been explored a lot by Roland Barthes in "La chambre claire"... even though with an approach quite different from yours. In any event, perhaps because I have been educated as a scientist - and am still indulging in the same activities - I always felt that running waters and waterfalls represent at best the complex cycles of our planet - and are a good metaphor, at least for me, of the continuosly changing climate machine of the Earth... Anyway, apart from these mumblings, I think this is one of the best images of running waters I have ever seen.
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Comment posted by Dietrich Gloger on September 5, 2010 at 2:05 PM
Man, I am too tired at the moment to read your words (just returned from vacation, some hours of drriving). BUT I want to let you know that I dig this one. One of your very very good water images for sure. I will come back and read... :wink:
Registered on January 26, 2007, 360 Posts, 9876 Comments
Comment posted by Preston Birdwell on September 5, 2010 at 2:14 PM
Ok, feel free to tell me it's time for a padded cell and some meds.

It looks like you've already been hitting the 'recreational' meds! :biggrin:

I have on many occassions followed a single snow flake as it drifts toward the earth. I have gazed at a piece of driftwood floating down a creek and wondered where and when it will come to rest, if ever. I have watched Golden Eagles spin lazily in the summer sky.

If I fix my eye on the snowflake or the driftwood, such that its motion is zero with respect to me, I then know nothing about it's momentum, i.e I don't know where it is going, or when it will get there. If I could stop a water molecule, I could easily measure it's position with respect to a fixed coordinate system, but I would know nothing about its momentum. These are examples of the Uncertainty Principle. I believe this 'uncertainty', as we move inexorably through time, is what makes us uniquely human, creates that sense of wonder, and fuels our creativity.

I just noticed that I don't need any more coffee! :biggrin:

--P
Registered on November 1, 2003, 471 Posts, 5188 Comments
Comment posted by Daniel Ewert on September 5, 2010 at 2:15 PM
I enjoyed reading your thoughts, Lon. I think often of time as well, but usually more in the past sense. You were very forward thinking in your post regarding where things would be in the future. I often study an old tree and wonder what has occurred under its watch in the past 1,000 years. It is all very intriguing. Thanks again.
Registered on June 2, 2009, 103 Posts, 1500 Comments
Comment posted by Stuart Williams on September 5, 2010 at 3:05 PM
splendid image - it is right down my alley. colours, flow, forms and elements all working perfectly.

particularly when one is dealing with sand, sea, tides and morning or evening light, one really deals with ephemera. these four things change with every instant and no instant can be re-captured.
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Comment posted by Karsten Wrobel on September 5, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Lon, this may be my favourite of all your water images... there are turbulent waters everywhere in the frame and no you won't be able to stop their flow nor the flow of time, but the moment you have captured / the composition you have come up with seems so perfectly balanced to me... a genuine sense of equilibrium... I really really like this shot :toast:
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Comment posted by Richard Wong on September 5, 2010 at 6:36 PM
Very nice Lon. I like how all the different directions are converging. I'd try to brighten up the explosure a little bit but not blow out the highlights as those look great as is.
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Comment posted by dean hebert on September 5, 2010 at 9:33 PM
Nicely done. :toast:
Registered on August 4, 2010, 70 Posts, 1132 Comments
Comment posted by Dean Sauskojus on September 6, 2010 at 3:00 AM
Great image Lon! Very painterly. When I think about time it's usually about time lost or being on time. The biggest thing about being out in nature to me is how powerful it is and that I'm just this puny little man in comparison. That's a whole nother story. Very interesting post.
Registered on September 29, 2009, 137 Posts, 2659 Comments
Comment posted by Morris McClung on September 6, 2010 at 9:41 AM
Mesmerizingly beautiful. I think our photos need to remind us how fleeting our time is here on this earth compared to the grand scheme of things. That our lifetimes are exactly like this moment you've captured with your camera. We are but snapshots, and that should make us appreciate these moments even more than we do.
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Comment posted by Jimmy Gekas on September 6, 2010 at 11:59 AM
Simple and it works well. I like the way the water molecules all seem to be going their own initial direction, but all meet at the bottom. Great commentary from you and many that have responded.
Registered on July 26, 2007, 244 Posts, 2807 Comments
Comment posted by Anil Rao on September 6, 2010 at 1:18 PM
Hi Lon,

A beautiful photograph. I love the sense of energy that has been cpatured in this scene -- surely gives the mind a lot of think about, specially with the interesting commentary that you have provided as background, and that is always a good thing.

I look forward to seeing more of your contemplative images, which I have been admiring for a long time.
Registered on November 15, 2003, 234 Posts, 4923 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Bielefeld on September 6, 2010 at 5:51 PM
I am a scientist and I often think about these types of things when out making images. In fact, if you read my signature block below all my posts, you will see a quote that that really hit home with me many years ago. Thanks for making me think in these terms once again.
Registered on December 6, 2008, 360 Posts, 7132 Comments
Comment posted by Hamed Musharbak on September 6, 2010 at 6:35 PM
I'm really happy about your commentary & it's good to share our feelings as well as our art works here.

do you know Lon .. some times our feelings lead us to add some different things to our daily life, maybe something special or just normal things. the important thing is how we can translate these feelings to become true :) .... i hope you understand what i mean.

great capture like always :)

Excuse me for my mistakes, (English grammatical)

Thanks for sharing :wavey:
Registered on June 1, 2009, 372 Posts, 2282 Comments
Comment posted by Vance Gese on September 6, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Lon, I really hope you do print this as I think this is gorgeous. A wonderful moment in time for sure, but captured with such incredible texture and color, such superb design and flow that can never, ever be duplicated. One person's comment mentioned John Sexton's work, and I must say that I thought of one of Sexton's images when I saw this. I think a color image that can evoke the same emotional response that a b/w can is really hard to create but for me, your image has achieved this. It is superb.
Registered on November 13, 2008, 298 Posts, 6629 Comments
Comment posted by Abdullaziz Bin Ali on September 7, 2010 at 5:16 AM
Well, I visited this image many times. However, I didn't comment waiting for the right time to write my proper impression.
I really like the introduction and the way you deal with your photographs .. it is nice to have a message and to think as what you have mentioned
Thank you for sharing such a great moment your eyes have brought to the community.
Registered on May 31, 2009, 112 Posts, 1590 Comments
Comment posted by Rudy Ruberti on September 7, 2010 at 12:28 PM
I saw this the other day but didn't get a chance to comment. I find the color and shutter speed to be pretty much perfect here. Great comp, too. Also, I have similar feelings while looking up into a star filled sky deep in the Sierras.
Registered on October 28, 2008, 179 Posts, 1875 Comments