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Snowy Woods

by Pat Sampson

Gallery: FloraPosted January 9, 20111,918 views20 comments
Woods at Cherry Creek Reservoir - coming home from work this afternoon.

Yes, I am aware that there are two bald eagles in this. As I started cropping the image to emphasize the birds enough to post in avian, I also started liking it less. The woods in this might not be as interesting without the birds but the birds without the woods don't work at all. So, I guess where I ended up is that in my mind this is a landscape of snowy woods and that there happen to be two birds in the image that add interest to the landscape - party crashers if you would.

Bill, I'll defer to your judgement as to where it belongs but I wouldn't post it on avian without cropping it more and that's just not the image I want.

Canon 7D
Canon 500mm w 1.4tc
ISO 120
F/5.6
1/200
Two image stack.
bean bag on car window

Helicon Focus (for noise reduction), NIK sharpening software, LR 3, CS 5, MacBook Pro 17

Selective sharpening applied to the birds only and a little vignette applied in LR 3.

Comments and suggestions welcome.

pat


Comments

20 comments
Comment posted by Daniel Cartamil on January 9, 2011 at 6:23 PM
Definitely love the comp as is, with some woods in the background, great capture
Registered on November 15, 2007, 50 Posts, 601 Comments
Comment posted by Brad Mangas on January 9, 2011 at 6:36 PM
I agree with your interpretation of this Pat, it's a great shot.
Registered on November 9, 2007, 94 Posts, 568 Comments
Comment posted by Barbara Graham on January 9, 2011 at 8:57 PM
Pat, this is amazing! It would be beautiful without the eagles, and to have them there is just -- well, I don't have any other word but amazing.
Registered on July 27, 2010, 1310 Posts, 5035 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Fach on January 9, 2011 at 8:59 PM
Pat: I think the very best place for this is on my hard drive. :wink: I'm not sure if I envy you the image or the experience more. 2 thumbs up! >=))>
Registered on November 1, 2003, 1805 Posts, 26981 Comments
Comment posted by Albert Darmo on January 9, 2011 at 9:10 PM
Hi Pat :wavey: Love everything about it :eek: The marvelous color and form of the tree is beautifully done. The birds are icing on the cake, but what a delicious icing :toast:
Albert Darmo. Canada
Registered on November 25, 2008, 1386 Posts, 11978 Comments
Comment posted by Gary Gulash on January 9, 2011 at 9:30 PM
Wow Pat, I like this a lot. I posted an eagle in the snow recently, this trumps mine on many levels. Beautiful image. :toast:
Registered on January 28, 2005, 879 Posts, 12098 Comments
Comment posted by Keith Bauer on January 9, 2011 at 11:01 PM
Hi Pat: I think this is a wonderful environmental portrait of the eagles. The snow covered branches help tell a story. Posting it Avian would have certainly been fine with me :smile: It is a wonderful image.
Registered on November 20, 2003, 458 Posts, 4836 Comments
Comment posted by Pat Sampson on January 9, 2011 at 11:35 PM
Thanks for the comments you all. I appreciate them.

Keith,
My first inclination was to post this on Avian but I thought folks would want to see more of the birds and the only way I could get there was to give up the flora and I didn't like that version of the image as well. Thank you for the comment though. I'll certainly keep it in mind going forward. I still shoot birds at least once a week and sometimes more frequently. I enjoy it a lot even if I rarely get anything that I think is worth posting.

Again, thanks to all for the comments.

pat
Registered on May 19, 2007, 953 Posts, 15989 Comments
Comment posted by Mauro Pasquero on January 10, 2011 at 6:20 AM
What a wonderful shot, Pat ! Very nice pair in their natural habitat !!!
Congratulations :toast:
Mauro
Registered on January 21, 2010, 650 Posts, 2500 Comments
Comment posted by John Tobias on January 10, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Very nice shot, IMHO there is no reason why it could not be in Avian. To me the eagles are the subject, supported by the snow covered trees. Thanks for posting.
Registered on September 12, 2009, 2120 Posts, 6455 Comments
Comment posted by beth summer on January 10, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Wonderful, Pat, how the eagles blend into the woods so well. An excellent image with the diagonal branches and snow. Well executed.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 437 Posts, 5220 Comments
Comment posted by Morris McClung on January 10, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Cold conveyed. Their displeasure with it conveyed. Thick growth of trees conveyed.
I'd say you were successful with this. :biggrin:
Registered on May 7, 2007, 670 Posts, 19650 Comments
Comment posted by Gary Yeoh on January 10, 2011 at 7:28 PM
Pat:
I thought I am the only one who goes in to work on Sunday and bring a camera along. Great capture of this pair of early. It is hard to decide whether I like the birds more or the woods but having both makes this an even more engaging image.
Registered on September 1, 2009, 588 Posts, 8184 Comments
Comment posted by Sandy Steinman on January 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM
Pat,

Well seen and well composed. My opinion is it belongs in both galleries. As much as I like macro and close-ups, it is also nice to see flowers, birds and other animals in their habitats.

Sandy
Berkeley, CA
Natural History Wanderings
http://picasaweb.google.com/sandysteinman

Registered on March 14, 2010, 10 Posts, 83 Comments
Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on January 12, 2011 at 2:50 AM
Avian image, Pat! Gorgeous, too. I'll continue to advocate for images like this in Avian. After all, how many times do you really get to see birds up close and isolated from their environment (by the effect of the long lenses)? I'm not nitting those kind of images, mind you. I just think there's room for different kinds of comps and interpretations of birds. And this is a great example, imo. Love it! In Avian... :wink: For a flora image, especially from you, Pat, it flunks.

Okay, Pat, everyone else said it more eloquently, especially Gary and Morris. And it doesn't really "flunk" for flora; it's just not "you," if you know what I mean. :rolleyes:
Registered on August 16, 2006, 603 Posts, 9192 Comments
Comment posted by Pete D on January 12, 2011 at 8:24 AM
I'm not much of a bird photographer, but this is Avian material to me. Sure, there is an environmental aspect to it, which is sometimes minimized (too much) in the usual Avian shots, but it is the environment that makes this interesting. Very cool shot regardless of where it is posted!
"two image stack" - hm - tell me more



Pete D.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 590 Posts, 1794 Comments
Comment posted by Pat Sampson on January 12, 2011 at 6:32 PM
Pete,

I shot this in continuous drive mode on the 7D. I had plenty of light and the 1/200 worked to freeze their action. They weren't doing much. So I figured I could get two images with an effective exposure speed of 1/100 for the pair. Since I thought I might need a severe crop I thought that anything I could do to reduce noise would probably be worthwhile.

In my experience stacking is a pretty good way to reduce noise. I've thought about it some and I'm guessing it goes something like this. Let f = the fraction of noise in any given image. Assuming the merging software masks noise with signal (I think it does), then merging two images with approximately the same amount of noise, reduces the noise in the composite image by a factor of 1-f. For example, suppose f - .1. Then, statistically .9 of the noise in the original image is masked when the images is merged with the next. This leaves .99 signal and .01 noise in the composite as opposed to the .1 noise in the original image. I don't know how much of an image is noise to begin with. I'm guessing a lot less than .1 but whatever it is, every time you merge an additional image you reduce the noise by .9 of the total noise in the image. If n is the number of times you merge the image then the noise in the composite at the end of the process is equal to f to the n. That's how I think it works anyway. The more pixels, the greater the statistical reliability of the model.

Basically, the idea is just that every image merge reduces the noise left in the merged image by a factor of f. If my assumption about masking is wrong, then all bets are off.

Pat



Registered on May 19, 2007, 953 Posts, 15989 Comments
Comment posted by Krunal Janani on January 13, 2011 at 2:48 AM
It's a beautiful Image Pat & i wud have no hesitation for posting this in Avian
Registered on September 16, 2010, 60 Posts, 1370 Comments
Comment posted by Larry Lynch on January 13, 2011 at 8:51 AM
What a fine capture and I agree with your decision to leave the trees/snow in the total scheme of things. I have really enjoyed your work over the last months as you are developing your own unique style and and work flow. :toast: :toast:
Registered on September 16, 2006, 773 Posts, 9940 Comments
Comment posted by Carol Hyman on January 14, 2011 at 9:15 AM
Pat, I think the concept is great and I also think those giant limbs detract from the birds.

I like the feeling of black and white with just a hint of yellows.

Cheers,

Carol
Registered on January 18, 2007, 597 Posts, 8062 Comments