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Hidden Paradise

by Navin Sarma

Gallery: LandscapePosted December 24, 2011453 views18 comments
A climb down into the gorges of Blackwater Falls State Park in autumn reveals Elakala Falls: a gem of water, rock, and warm-colored foliage swirling in multiple eddies.

Canon 5dm2, Nikkor 14-24mm/2.8G & Canon EF 17-40mm/4L (with 10 stop ND filter)
3 exposures for focus and dynamic range

Curious for your thoughts on the image, especially the crop. I am considering cropping off the top, down past the top of the green rock on the left.

Thanks for looking, and especially for providing your comment :)

happy holidays

:toast:

Comments

18 comments
Comment posted by Philip Hodgkins on December 24, 2011 at 7:56 AM
I think your idea of a crop is a good one. It would remove the (to me) competing bright foliage and call more attention to the eddies in the lower pool. Other than that, I think you have a well put together image. I don't see much evidence of HDR manipulation, which is as it should be.
Registered on July 24, 2006, 2741 Posts, 12349 Comments
Comment posted by Tom Hilton on December 24, 2011 at 9:22 AM
Navin, you have really done some nice work up in Blackwater Falls.
I liked the original crop, but after your and Phil's crop comment I think eliminating the tree would make it even better.
Well done.
:toast:
Registered on September 19, 2011, 68 Posts, 668 Comments
Comment posted by Walt Sterneman on December 24, 2011 at 9:24 AM
Nice shot Navin. I like the way you have put this together. For me, I'd crop a little less off the top. You can stop just short of the green rock on the left and still eliminate the bright spots on top. This gives that rock a more complete look. Just my thoughts.
Registered on March 24, 2010, 73 Posts, 1268 Comments
Comment posted by Tom Haxby on December 24, 2011 at 9:49 AM
This is a unique image and I like the water swirls and the falls. Very interesting leading through the rest of the image. That said, I agree with the others that the bright on the top and reflection on the leaves could be cropped out.
Registered on July 6, 2006, 126 Posts, 647 Comments
Comment posted by Navin Sarma on December 24, 2011 at 11:50 AM
hi all, thank you for the comments and thoughts thus far :)

this was my idea of the crop. walt - i really would like to keep the fall tree, but i think its all or nothing: show the entire tree or crop it all off. showing a portion of the tree didn't look good to me. in this next crop, it's the latter. and while I do think it brings more attention to the falls and eddys, i think the background is a little lost. the tree trunks in the dark may compensate, but id like your thoughts :)



Registered on July 17, 2011, 233 Posts, 1373 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Chambers on December 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Very pretty. I don't think the crop would necessarily hurt it too much, but also don't think it would help. I think I would leave it as presented - I like that splash of color; kinda balances things out IMO.

EDIT: I didn't read the comments or see the repost before I commented, but after seeing the repost I would definitely leave it as first presented.
Registered on April 10, 2005, 753 Posts, 21216 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on December 24, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Hi Navin, This looks like a great place and a very pretty scene. I like this much better in the original. The crop doesn't seem to work for me as I like the fall color in the upper leaves and the nicer overall balance as Bill mentioned. Nice work, and Happy Holidays!

Nick Bristol
Lone Rock, WI
Registered on February 1, 2004, 752 Posts, 14140 Comments
Comment posted by Philip Hodgkins on December 24, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Agreed. I do like the first better.
Registered on July 24, 2006, 2741 Posts, 12349 Comments
Comment posted by Hillary Younger on December 24, 2011 at 4:06 PM
Beautifully composed, Navin....I really like the swirl and the view framed through the rocks...the color and texture of the f/g is a delight....just saw the crop, and agree that the original works better, giving the image room to breathe.
Registered on October 2, 2011, 17 Posts, 167 Comments
Comment posted by Daniel Rappaport on December 24, 2011 at 7:08 PM
Amazing composition. I agree also with your crop down to the top of the green rock.
Registered on September 9, 2009, 294 Posts, 2006 Comments
Comment posted by Walt Sterneman on December 24, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Yes, I also agree, go with the first, Navin. Nice image.
Registered on March 24, 2010, 73 Posts, 1268 Comments
Comment posted by Navin Sarma on December 25, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Great, thanks all for your input! I am going to keep with the original. Im going to try to play with the way the light hits the back greens and see if that cant be more "sheen" . Thanks again, Merry xmas :)
Registered on July 17, 2011, 233 Posts, 1373 Comments
Comment posted by Ed Lowe on December 25, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Both are beautifully done, Navin. My preference is the original as I think the bit of autumn color on the tree helps to balance the image. BTW, nice job on the swirls. Happy holidays to you also.

Ed
Registered on February 7, 2004, 414 Posts, 7115 Comments
Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on December 25, 2011 at 7:30 PM
I'm equivocal on the crop. Could see cloning in some darker foliage to the light area along the top edge right of center. I like the swirling water, but sort of wish it had more texture.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 364 Posts, 22328 Comments
Comment posted by Michael Anderson on December 26, 2011 at 12:11 AM
I like the way you got competing swirls in the water there! Beautiful fall color.
Registered on January 31, 2006, 228 Posts, 3072 Comments
Comment posted by Wick Smith on December 26, 2011 at 10:12 AM
I concur with the original composition - the crop puts the falls too tight at the top. Great double capture. I find it intriguing that you used 2 different lenses for the two captures. I know the Nikkor won't take filters without serious adaptation.
Registered on June 12, 2009, 91 Posts, 379 Comments
Comment posted by Jude Haase on December 26, 2011 at 12:45 PM
Beautiful composition!! I do find the composition a lil tight at the top but that's subjective....I do rather the original post & don't mind the tight composition at all!!! :wavey: :toast:
Registered on April 3, 2006, 236 Posts, 1657 Comments
Comment posted by Navin Sarma on December 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM
thanks again for the very helpful comments in choosing the crop. i'm going for the original, as suggested by the majority here.

i've taken another pass at the bright spots in the background, using more of a darker exposure focused at infinity.

tony - i concurred with your comment on the texture of the water. it's something i struggle with all the time when it comes to processing rushing water: how to balance brightness and contrast with fine details of water movement. i've tried to bring back some texture in the foreground eddy - curious for your thoughts.

wick - i only used the nikkor for the foreground leaves on the shore and parts of the green rock on the left. its sharpness at the edges far outmatches the canon, and i was going for extremely sharp in the leaves. for the rest of the image, i used the canon lens with the 10 stop filter. i would have taken another exposure of the background trees with the nikkor (or the canon without the filter) to get a sharper/slightly less noisy output, but i wanted the scene to deemphasize the green trees.

here's my last pass at the image. again curious for thoughts. thanks so much for the help so far! :toast:
Registered on July 17, 2011, 233 Posts, 1373 Comments