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Spectre and Stars

by Jared Warren

Gallery: LandscapePosted May 30, 2012317 views7 comments
I recently started experimenting with night landscapes. This was last week at Bryce Canyon near Bryce Point. The tree was briefly painted with a flashlight filtered through my sweater. :) Any recommendations for a cleaner starfield or avoiding/fixing what looks like a little distortion of the stars toward the top? Thanks in advance for any feedback/critique you'd like to provide.

5DII, 16-35mm f/2.8 @ 16mm, f/2.8, 30 sec exposure, ISO 3200

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Comment posted by Alex Noriega on May 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM
At f/2.8, if you were focused on the tree, the stars might be slightly out of focus, which in my opinion gives them a less clean look. It's a tough thing to balance, as some people prefer the stars out of focus to make them bigger and softer - but then if you apply sharpening to those larger stars, they end up looking kind of square. I prefer pin-sharp stars overall, or unsharpened out of focus ones that still maintain a circular shape. The distortion near the top is "coma" from your lens, it's normal on most lenses wide open at night with bright points of light near the edges of the frame. I personally have seen that having the stars focused perfectly at infinity helps mitigate this effect. It could also be field curvature from shooting at 16mm - wherein if you're focused perfectly in the center of the frame, the edges will actually be slightly out of focus. The way to fix this is to use Live View to figure out exactly where you need to focus (probably a bit closer than infinity) to have both the center and edge in focus. There are a few lenses (such as the 58mm Noct-Nikkor f/1.2) that are specifically designed to avoid coma and field curvature, but they're rare and expensive - not to mention 58mm is too long for this shot.

I would maybe go cooler and more magenta on the sky to help it look a little cleaner, as then you can adjust the hue of reds/magentas in the sky (the colors you'll see most in high-iso noise) more toward blue, to make the whole thing a bit more uniform. If you want to do it all in one exposure, use a warmer light to still keep the tree looking warm - or do a blend, as I'll describe a bit below.

As far as having both the tree and stars in perfect focus, you can do a blend - one image for the stars at perfect infinity focus (set manually with Live View on a distant point of light), and in this image don't light paint the tree, so you can easily make a mask where you subtract the black landscape silhouette. Then take another exposure focused specifically for the tree, which, in this situation, you can do at ISO 400 and f/4 for a longer period of time, since you're blending and don't need to freeze the star motion! The only issue here is that focusing at different distances can distort the image slightly differently ("focus breathing"), and so you may need to do some manual blending work to fix the slight difference. Depends on the lens. This whole thing would only be necessary if you were close enough to the tree - if you're far enough away that it falls under perfect infinity focus, then ignore this section of my rant.

Sorry to bombard you with not-so-well-organized words, and sorry if you know all this already.. it's tough to tell with a web-sized version what's really going on in your shot. I have a lot to say on the subject. :)
Registered on May 19, 2012, 80 Posts, 195 Comments
Comment posted by Jared Warren on May 30, 2012 at 9:03 PM
Alex, thanks for your detailed and very helpful comments - they are very much appreciated!
Registered on May 11, 2012, 84 Posts, 931 Comments
Comment posted by Walt Sterneman on May 30, 2012 at 9:20 PM
This is an interesting concept Jared and I am glad you posted it just to read the response from Alex. Nice job with the response Alex!
Registered on March 24, 2010, 73 Posts, 1268 Comments
Comment posted by John Mumaw on May 30, 2012 at 9:35 PM
Corner distortion of the stars is caused by the 16-35 lens. I use this lens for night photography and it happens to all of my 'starscapes'. I compensate by cropping the image. Also, try a bit less time exposure than 30 sec., which is really pushing the envelope for static star images at 16mm (500 / lens focal length = exposure time for static stars).
Registered on September 9, 2005, 62 Posts, 2289 Comments
Comment posted by Dean Sauskojus on May 31, 2012 at 1:52 AM
Pretty neat photo. I like how you filled the frame with the branches of the tree. Nice job.
Registered on September 29, 2009, 137 Posts, 2659 Comments
Comment posted by Wick Smith on June 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Jared,
I've shot a lot of night shots with the 16-35mm on a 5DII. The elongated stars are because of lens distortion or coma as Alex mentions above as I understand it. Stars are the toughest to get right as any little distortion is quite evident. It's not the length of the exposure as you were at 16mm. I tried some at less than 15 seconds & 16mm & still got the elongation in the corners (especially one corner). I ended up buying a Nikkor 14-24mm for night photography and saw a drastic reduction in the distortion, along with much sharper images from this incredible lens. It's not for everyone, as the lens is expensive, and there's a $150 - $250 fee for the Nikkor/Canon adapter.

The alternative is to zoom in to about 300% on the photo in Photoshop, and use the spot healing brush tool to clone out the long tails on the offending stars. It takes time but is worth the effort if you've got a shot like the one above. Well done!
Registered on June 12, 2009, 91 Posts, 379 Comments
Comment posted by Wick Smith on June 4, 2012 at 4:05 PM
Here's an interesting article from LensRentals.com on distortion & coma. It's an interesting to read about coma & what causes it:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2010/10/the-seven-deadly-aberrations

I also heard from Kevin Adams, who does a lot of night photography, including clinics. He had told me before to stop down to F4, as it helped reduce the star "tails". He didn't mention coma, but it sounds like what he was referring to.
Registered on June 12, 2009, 91 Posts, 379 Comments