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Marching Godwits
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Marching Godwits

by Allen Brooks

Gallery: AvianPosted September 22, 2013217 views11 comments
Marbled Godwits, Oregon Coast

Canon 7d
100-400 at 360 mm
f6.3
1/640
ISO 100

Thanks for looking. Comments and Critiques appreciated.

Please look at the larger version. At least on my monitor the colors are terrible on the small version and look okay on the large version. I don't know why this would be so. I have never encountered this before, nor seen it with other images on NPN. Perhaps someone can explain this. :confused:

Comments

11 comments
Comment posted by John Jeevaratnam on September 22, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Nice shot Allen. I do like the composition.
Registered on July 29, 2013, 112 Posts, 229 Comments
Comment posted by Martin Dunn on September 23, 2013 at 3:08 AM
Cute shot Allen.
Maybe a couple of adjustments..
A mask to darken the very bright background at the top of the image would help bring out more detail overall, as it stands the top half of the photo kind of glares.
Maybe move your troop of godwits a bit to the right of the frame to move them away from centre frame and create more space for them to march into.
Registered on February 20, 2013, 198 Posts, 1011 Comments
Comment posted by David Sewell on September 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM
The large version does seem to have a warmer colour balance than the small version, which may help account for the differences, but I would go along with Martin's suggestions as well.

David
Registered on September 10, 2008, 63 Posts, 801 Comments
Comment posted by Hans Overduin on September 23, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Great shot of this running group of birds. Martin's suggestion makes sense to me as well ! Good luck, Cheers, Hans
Registered on August 31, 2011, 491 Posts, 3807 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Ditch on September 23, 2013 at 4:57 PM
This shouldn't happen, if you generate both small and large images from the same original, and if you keep the same color profile embedded throughout the process.

Neither small nor large image has an embedded color profile. The large version has a lot of EXIF data; the small version has none.

My workflow:
- raw conversion and post processing in Photoshop to produce a master layered psd file
- flatten the.master file to an 8 bit tif
- crop the tif
- save a 1200 px version from the cropped tif
- save a 720 px version from 1200 px version
- apply selective sharpening to both the 720 and 1200 px versions
- save jpeg versions
- never delete the sRGB color profile

Both posted sizes contain the same EXIF and color profile and look the same as nothing is changed other than size.

What's your workflow?
Registered on November 1, 2003, 1031 Posts, 12705 Comments
Comment posted by Dennis Plank on September 23, 2013 at 7:41 PM
Hi Allen. I agree with Martin's suggestions as well. If you got different colors, and as Richard noted the EXIF data disappeared from the small version,you probably just accidentally used a different process than normal to save it.

:toast:
Registered on January 28, 2008, 1767 Posts, 23192 Comments
Comment posted by Allen Brooks on September 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Thanks everyone for the comments.

To clarify, I only uploaded one photo, the 1200px version and NPN did its thing and created the smaller version, so it seems to me they should be the same except for size.

Richard, my workflow is somewhat similar to yours: ACR, PS5; though I usually don't save a layered PSD file; I create a tif file and save it (often with layers) and then create the 1200 px file for NPN and sharpen as needed.

Again, thanks for all the comments and suggestions. I plan to re-work it based on your ideas.
Registered on July 27, 2011, 262 Posts, 2597 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Ditch on September 24, 2013 at 11:54 AM
To clarify, I only uploaded one photo, the 1200px version and NPN did its thing and created the smaller version, so it seems to me they should be the same except for size.


Then the change must have happened with the NPN algorithm that resized your 1200px image. At the least it stripped out all EXIF. If there was no color profile in your original then we can only guess at how the process interpreted it.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 1031 Posts, 12705 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Leggett on September 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Pretty cool shot, Allen, getting them all to cooperate.
Registered on July 21, 2004, 706 Posts, 3233 Comments
Comment posted by Sharon Hallowell on September 28, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Uploading problems aside....I really like the larger version of this...the running group is very nice. Definitely worth some time working on what has been suggested. Sharon
Registered on November 1, 2003, 392 Posts, 4810 Comments
Comment posted by Howard Cheek on April 24, 2014 at 8:06 AM
Cool synchronized strutting Allen! :cool:
I perused over the suggestions, there's always room for improvement of course.
Great as is, well done :toast:
Registered on July 24, 2008, 1201 Posts, 10758 Comments