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Triglav Autumn (another version)
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Triglav Autumn (another version)

by Verena & Georg Pop

Gallery: LandscapePosted November 22, 200611,586 views36 comments
I posted a shot from that scene weeks ago and in some comments you (the viewers) wondered (or suspected :wink:) if it was a double exposure. past weekend we had a big exhibition (9000 viewers on 2 days) and the print was shown in 60x40" size and AGAIN some people said it's impossible to have such a good reflection in a long exposure! It bothered me after reading it in NPN comments and still does. now we got a different version here, maybe it's more obvious it's NOT a double exp.

besides: Triglav National Park, slovenia.
Toyo Field 45 AII, 75mm, 1 min exp. Velvia 50 (the colors in that post have suffered a bit, I guess, from compression)

Verena

Comments

36 comments
Comment posted by Verena & Georg Pop on November 22, 2006 at 12:47 PM
just in case the other one is already forgotten, I post it again...
(the colors here match the original slide better than the those in the post above...)
verena
Registered on July 5, 2006, 272 Posts, 2823 Comments
Comment posted by Matt Dallos on November 22, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Verena..I really like both of these shots. The original shot is still my favoriate as it seems almost mind bending, while this newer post gives the viewer more of a reference..a place to begin to understand what is going on in the image.
Registered on October 11, 2005, 91 Posts, 1590 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Chambers on November 22, 2006 at 1:19 PM
Both are incredible Verena. I somehow missed the previous post but I'm glad you posted it with this one. I can't imagine how nice this would be at 60x40!
Registered on April 10, 2005, 753 Posts, 21216 Comments
Comment posted by Verena & Georg Pop on November 22, 2006 at 1:24 PM
Matt, yes the "old" version is our favorite too and it's a very, very successful fine print. we wanted to give exactly what you said: a starting point, so there 'll be no misunderstandings with that composition. glad you appreciated it. we could go ahead not caring about what people think of it, but it really bothers us, if there is believe it's not a "straight" picture.
verena
Registered on July 5, 2006, 272 Posts, 2823 Comments
Comment posted by Joel Truckenbrod on November 22, 2006 at 1:51 PM
Hey Verena,

I personally didn't question the process of how the shot you originally posted was created. I've seen situations simular to this on the many rivers and lakes where I live (though on a much smaller scale), where the same concept could be applied. The thing that struck me about the shot when I first saw it, that made it so special, is that it portrays a common subject in a non conventional way. In essence, you're showing many people a way of seeing something that they normally wouldn't even consider. This is really a gift to the viewer. It's easy enough to construct images in a conventional way that can relate a sense of place...showing somebody a new way of seeing something however, is much more difficult and far less common. For me, your first posting (the second one shown here, also referred to as the "old" version) works better simply because you give less context. It's visually and intellectually intriguing. The concern of believability is good to a point, but I think there's times to let it go, especially when the integrity of your work can say something about an image that may deviate from the "normal" way of rendering something. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

Best regards and carry on the good work.
Registered on January 27, 2006, 17 Posts, 751 Comments
Comment posted by Verena & Georg Pop on November 22, 2006 at 2:09 PM
Bill, Peter.. thanks.
Joel, first, thank you, second, thank you!
One point in posting this, was indeed to show how a landscape photo, of a fairly large scale-content (half of the lakes surface) can be shot in an abstract way, so people start wondering what they actually look at. too often it's a concept only applied to macro photography. (although, of course, it's not often possible..) but it motivates (I hope) to keep an eye (or two) open for sg like it. so we didn't want to think anybody we applied some tricks here.. :wink:
thanks again!
verena
Registered on July 5, 2006, 272 Posts, 2823 Comments
Comment posted by Michael Lowe on November 22, 2006 at 2:40 PM
A really exceptional,unique image. As was the first one which I somehow missed. :toast:
Registered on February 11, 2004, 777 Posts, 5252 Comments
Comment posted by David Senesac on November 22, 2006 at 3:43 PM
I never saw the previous post so I'll put my 2 cents in here taking a fresh look at this. What strikes me which you might explain is it appears all the colored leaves have been moving during the exposure resulting in the red trails. Thus one might expect this is a wide sluggish river rather than a lake? If such is the case the water surface might be relatively flat calm even though it was moving and thus able to reflect rather well. As for density of the reflection, I would expect that the white snow reflection ought to stand out where it had a dark water background while being weak where the brighter red leaf backgrounds combined. This web image is too compressed to be able to evaluate that. ...David
Registered on April 24, 2006, 167 Posts, 869 Comments
Comment posted by Slavomir Dzieciatk on November 22, 2006 at 4:06 PM
This is phenomenal!!!
Registered on November 24, 2004, 61 Posts, 708 Comments
Comment posted by Zack Schnepf on November 22, 2006 at 4:16 PM
I too missed the first one, I'm glad I got to see it here. I agree the first one is the strongest, but both are exceptional! Beautiful work :toast:
Registered on November 1, 2003, 403 Posts, 2528 Comments
Comment posted by Bret Edge on November 22, 2006 at 5:38 PM
I'm not real sure what I'm looking at here but boy do I like it! I bet the big print is a treat to view. Beautiful!
Registered on November 1, 2003, 711 Posts, 6363 Comments
Comment posted by Mike Dawson on November 22, 2006 at 7:37 PM
WOW, I LIKE THEM BOTH BUT TO ME THE FIRST one is one of your best and that is saying something. Gret work and who really cares if it looks good 40x60 and some buys it!
Registered on February 4, 2006, 364 Posts, 8872 Comments
Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on November 22, 2006 at 9:31 PM
Just love these. I'll have to play with long exposure some day. The reflections are fantastic.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 364 Posts, 22328 Comments
Comment posted by Jack Brauer on November 23, 2006 at 1:38 AM
Wow, very inspiring! Thanks for posting.
Registered on September 12, 2005, 40 Posts, 627 Comments
Comment posted by Prashant Khapane on November 23, 2006 at 2:20 AM
SUPERB!! Where was the exhibition held? I'm really looking forward to my trip to this NP next year. Any ideads for winter? :wink:
Registered on November 1, 2003, 492 Posts, 4580 Comments
Comment posted by Nye Simmons on November 23, 2006 at 11:45 AM
both variations are manificent - what a wonderful scene - and well rendered
Registered on December 12, 2004, 112 Posts, 1111 Comments
Comment posted by Verena & Georg Pop on November 23, 2006 at 12:04 PM
Prashan, it was held at the UNO headquarters in Vienna, the "Austria Center". there was a big fair called "Photo Adventure".
georg
Registered on July 5, 2006, 272 Posts, 2823 Comments
Comment posted by Guy Tal on November 23, 2006 at 12:32 PM
I don't think it's impossible but I doubt many would be able to pull it off as expertly as you have. This is just breathtaking.

Guy
Registered on November 1, 2003, 566 Posts, 15507 Comments
Comment posted by Ian Cameron on November 23, 2006 at 4:21 PM
Another beauty Verena but definitely less incredible than your very first version which I will remember for a very long time indeed.
Registered on August 6, 2004, 1125 Posts, 3318 Comments
Comment posted by Ed Lowe on November 23, 2006 at 6:37 PM
I did not see the first post either, Verena. Both images are exceptional, but the first post rocks! :toast: Do you remember what your exposure time was on the first post?

Ed
Registered on February 7, 2004, 414 Posts, 7115 Comments
Comment posted by Roger Rouch on November 23, 2006 at 7:28 PM
I have to say that the original photo posted second just wasn't my cup of tea, maybe just for personal preference reasons. Though I can appreciate it as a neat photo. The most recent is breath taking. Great to see.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 159 Posts, 1014 Comments
Comment posted by Verena & Georg Pop on November 24, 2006 at 4:10 AM
Again, thanks all. I feel much better about now...
Ed, I think 4 minutes, or sg. like that.
verena
Registered on July 5, 2006, 272 Posts, 2823 Comments
Comment posted by Leann Greene on November 24, 2006 at 5:48 AM
I remember not understanding the reflection in the first one but it has always stood out in my mind. The 2nd one posted here is another example of V&G fine image execution. Don't disqualify the possibility that web presentation and monitor qualities can hamper how well an image (especially the detail you present) can be absorbed and received by viewers.
Registered on January 25, 2006, 223 Posts, 3566 Comments
Comment posted by Paul Breitkreuz on November 24, 2006 at 9:52 AM
Amazing image. Wish I could have been one of the 9000 lucky folks to have seen it in person to view it at the full 60x40 size. Great scene. :toast: :jump:
Registered on February 25, 2006, 525 Posts, 8448 Comments
Comment posted by Dan Baumbach on November 24, 2006 at 9:17 PM
I don't remember the first image but this one is terriffic. I wish I could see this at 60x40.

- Dan
Registered on November 1, 2003, 473 Posts, 7980 Comments
Comment posted by Jose Suro on November 25, 2006 at 2:19 PM
What an incredible image. I like this one even better than your first post, which I loved. Excellent!!

Jose
Registered on June 24, 2006, 267 Posts, 2273 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Chambers on November 27, 2006 at 11:27 AM
Congratulations on the EP Verena - very much deserved!
:toast: :toast: :toast:
Registered on April 10, 2005, 753 Posts, 21216 Comments
Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on November 27, 2006 at 2:27 PM
Hi Vereena,
This is just amazing.It compares equally with an image I saw at Nature's Best Photographer of the Year when the exhibition came to Seattle last summer. I couldn't take my eyes off it. Same with this. It's a masterpiece in ONE shot.
Congratulations on the well deserved EP for this image. :toast:
Registered on August 16, 2006, 603 Posts, 9192 Comments
Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on November 28, 2006 at 9:16 AM
This is wonderful. I prefer the original version with the vivid colours but they are both incredible shots. Is that Mt Triglav reflected in the lake? Congratulations on a very well deserved EP.
Registered on September 27, 2006, 636 Posts, 10682 Comments
Comment posted by Larry Lynch on January 4, 2007 at 9:59 PM
Congratulations on your EP. An amazing image. Very Special.
Registered on September 16, 2006, 773 Posts, 9940 Comments
Comment posted by SandyRichardsBrown on January 8, 2007 at 2:08 AM
Spectacular! Congrats!
Sandy
Registered on November 24, 2003, 3937 Posts, 12909 Comments
Comment posted by Paul Breitkreuz on January 13, 2007 at 4:58 PM
Congratulations Verena on being a EP selection for the year 2006 for this AMAZING image. :toast: :jump:
Registered on February 25, 2006, 525 Posts, 8448 Comments
Comment posted by Dietrich Gloger on January 26, 2007 at 10:59 AM
Hallo!
Congrats for beeing selected as the second place in the earth sea&sky category! I was very surprised - I was one of the 9000 visitors - I am the guy that talked quite a bit with you, Verena, about taking pictures in the "lobau", hidden places such as the wild wine and getting started as landscape photographer as soon as possible. :biggrin:
Servus,
Dietrich
Registered on January 26, 2007, 360 Posts, 9876 Comments
Comment posted by Mike Stacey on March 2, 2007 at 3:32 AM
Both of these are absolutely stunning portrayals of the wonderment of the natural world around us. The best thing is that you've captured this on large format film enabling the highest quality print output. I can imagine a large print (60x40?) of these would stop a viewer in their tracks. Bravo.


I prefer the 2nd shot for its uniformity but both are superb. How did you get such a slow exposure in what seems like quite bright light? Or was it dark? Maybe the use of a ND filter?
Registered on February 7, 2007, 93 Posts, 297 Comments
Comment posted by Carsten Ranke on June 12, 2007 at 4:04 PM
Both are outstanding. Coming a bit late to the show I can only second the praise - one of the best landscapes I have seen for a while. The second one here is more enigmatic, holds my interest for longer, my favourite (but the other is stellar, too, of course). Hats off !
Registered on May 31, 2007, 20 Posts, 411 Comments
Comment posted by Ashutosh Rajekar on September 28, 2007 at 8:37 PM
Wow that's really creative. I really like this ... those leaves flying by give a great action-type feel to it, but the fallen leaves and the reflection give some stability and calmness ... you've mixed the two in a great way! :toast:
Registered on June 8, 2006, 51 Posts, 910 Comments