Posted by Harley Goldman on November 16, 2006 at 1:04 PM
Check out the announcement from Fuji UK. The pixel peepers won't care, but a lot of film users miss the old 50, despite its slow speed and reciprocity issues.
Posted by Cliff Beittel on November 16, 2006 at 3:52 PM
Ideally, they should retain the original color while reducing the granularity to the levels attained with RVP100 and other newer emulsions. For wildlife shooters, RVP100 also has the advantage of covering ISOs from 100 to 400 with one film.
I like the Provia palette better than Velvia, especially the reds, yellows and blues. Velvia 100F is pretty similar with a little more punch.
Velvia 50 has the best greens in my opinion but can do some perverse things to reds and blues My world has a lot more red than green. If I were living in the northwest I will likely be using more Velvia 50 though.
Guy
Posted by Harley Goldman on November 16, 2006 at 6:14 PM
I tried the 100F. It seems to scan with a strong magenta cast. I did not like it a whole lot. I will have to try a box of Provia.
I did get some weirdness with the Velvia 100 on my Utah trip with the red rock and very warm light. Same with the bristlecones in the White Mt.s with really warm first light. It was this electrical red. Very strange.
Posted by Richard Wong on November 16, 2006 at 6:40 PM
Working on scanned Velvia files was a nightmare when I was in art school. I spent 40+ hours on one file in a semester just for my final portfolio presentation. The last roll of film I shot was two years ago.
Harley, the 100F scanning cast is a well documented phenomenon. I hope there's IT8 targets for it by now or possibly built-in profiles at least for the high end scanning software.
I pretty much work all my images digitally so the high contrast that makes Velvia so nice is really not something I need. I prefer to have more detail and better color balance, then add the contrast in post processing as needed rather than risk blocked shadows or color channels (especially reds and blues with Velvia).
I like the V-100 (non F) for its color rendition of greens and yellow/green in subdued light, but must admit it does goofy stuff to reds: a bit over the top.. To me, all of the Velveetas suffer from a limited dynamic range. That fact was what sent me over to Astia-100F. I find it's neutral color pallet to be very nice, and it scans very well.
I do think this is good news for the Velveeta users: It really is a fine film. For Fuji to bring it back shows that they care about the few goofballs who still use film.
-PB
Posted by Robert Fisher on November 17, 2006 at 10:15 AM
While I said it was good news above, there is no question that Velvia has a limited use for some (me included). What it does it does well and that makes it useful. My favourite slide film though is still Fuji's MS 100/1000.
Glad to hear this as I shot our last roll of Velvia 50 over a year ago. We ususally shot it at ISO 40 which really produced super saturated colors
Our only complaint about the old Velvia is its tendency to make yellows a little green. For that matter, we were really dissappointed when the pale yellow-green of yucca palm flowers were as green as the stems and palm leaves. Later, we determined that the problem was due to the cyan layer being sensitive to UV light when a friend took night Velvia shots of the moom over a lake with the foreground illuminated by a mercury-vapor lamp while we used Provia 100F. Their shots had green highlights while ours did not.
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Guy
You prefer Provia over either of the Velvias? What do you prefer about it?
Velvia 50 has the best greens in my opinion but can do some perverse things to reds and blues
Guy
I did get some weirdness with the Velvia 100 on my Utah trip with the red rock and very warm light. Same with the bristlecones in the White Mt.s with really warm first light. It was this electrical red. Very strange.
I pretty much work all my images digitally so the high contrast that makes Velvia so nice is really not something I need. I prefer to have more detail and better color balance, then add the contrast in post processing as needed rather than risk blocked shadows or color channels (especially reds and blues with Velvia).
Guy
I do think this is good news for the Velveeta users: It really is a fine film. For Fuji to bring it back shows that they care about the few goofballs
-PB
Our only complaint about the old Velvia is its tendency to make yellows a little green. For that matter, we were really dissappointed when the pale yellow-green of yucca palm flowers were as green as the stems and palm leaves. Later, we determined that the problem was due to the cyan layer being sensitive to UV light when a friend took night Velvia shots of the moom over a lake with the foreground illuminated by a mercury-vapor lamp while we used Provia 100F. Their shots had green highlights while ours did not.