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Photo of the Month 12/07 - Clearing Storm over Ama Dablam
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Photo of the Month 12/07 - Clearing Storm over Ama Dablam

by Michael Anderson

Gallery: LandscapePosted November 14, 200732,767 views89 comments
I just returned from a long trip to Asia and the Himalayas and will have a lot of new images to post here on ES&S and M&N. I'm still getting caught up on the amazing fall images you guys have posted the last few weeks and will be around a lot more to comment on your images now.

This is Ama Dablam, a spectacular mountain in the Solu-Khumbu region of the Himalaya. I took this from a high ridge near Island Peak Base camp in the region most famous for the trek to Everest. Fifteen minutes before this I was surrounded by fog and visibilty was 20 feet. The fog magically cleared at the peak of alpenglow light and I felt extremely lucky to get this image.

Thanks for looking and I appreciate any critiques you have.

-Mike

Comments

89 comments
Comment posted by Paul Breitkreuz on November 14, 2007 at 6:44 PM
An amazing site, Mike. The detail in the peaks, the two copper tops, are absolutely radiant. Looking forward to some more images from the recent trip too.
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Comment posted by John&Patty Benway on November 14, 2007 at 6:50 PM
Beautiful composition and amazing light Mike. All I can really say is simply beautiful.
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Comment posted by Ian Mason on November 14, 2007 at 7:04 PM
Breathtaking! Composition spot on and colours superb.
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Comment posted by David Chauvin on November 14, 2007 at 7:08 PM
Wow! The light is spectacular but the bit of cloud in the lower frame holds it together. :toast:
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Comment posted by Bill Chambers on November 14, 2007 at 7:13 PM
This leaves me breathless Mike. Glad to have you back, and can't wait to see your images. This is absolutely spectacular, in every sense - comp, color, light, et al. The dynamic range in this is really impressive!

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by Harley Goldman on November 14, 2007 at 7:19 PM
Quite spectacular. Congrats on the fine luck to have it clear off at just the right time.
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Comment posted by INGOMA on November 14, 2007 at 7:37 PM
Phenomenal image Mike! The power and beauty of these fantastic mountains is captured exquisitely. What an awesome shot!
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Comment posted by Brian Rasmussen on November 14, 2007 at 7:42 PM
Great Gravy!! (my highest exclaimation) The golden tops, the breaking fog at the bottom--this is wildly beautiful!
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Comment posted by Doug Dolde on November 14, 2007 at 7:44 PM
Whoa this is some awesome light. They look like gold. I like the "waves" in the foreground too; makes a good anchor for the peaks.
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Comment posted by Ronnie Gaubert on November 14, 2007 at 7:47 PM
Hi Michael,
Very nice! Nothing I can add to what has already been said. To catch that magical light just at dusk is the reason one should never depart a location until very last light. You just never know when conditions will change. :toast:
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Comment posted by Cezar Mart on November 14, 2007 at 7:49 PM
Fenomenal!
Question: Amadablam is the first peak, right? The one behind is Nuptse, correct?
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Comment posted by Bret Edge on November 14, 2007 at 7:53 PM
This is extremely powerful, Mike. I love it.
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Comment posted by Bernie Kasper on November 14, 2007 at 7:54 PM
How does it feel Michael to not only capture, but to be able to view such an almost spiritual scene, your work from this region is incredible and if this is the first I can't wait to see what you have got in store for us next. :toast: :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by Michael Anderson on November 14, 2007 at 7:57 PM
Cezar,

This is an unusual view of Ama Dablam looking directly at the NorthWest face (The more familiar view is from the Southwest). The point on the left is the true summit and the one on the right is a much lower shoulder formation that appears huge from this foreshortened perspective. Lhotse is to my left and Everest directly behind Lhotse. Nuptse is behind me to the left. I could not see Everest from here.
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Comment posted by Benjamin Glatt on November 14, 2007 at 7:59 PM
Mike, I am really enjoying your new work! This shot is phenomenal, love that light! :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by Mark Windom on November 14, 2007 at 8:02 PM
That is some nice alpenglow! The wispy cloud toward the bottom of the frame adds alot. Very nice.
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Comment posted by Michael Anderson on November 14, 2007 at 8:05 PM
Bernie,

Thanks for the compliment, and to be honest, these mountains were completely off the scale of my imagination. I would constantly stop in utter amazement at the scenes unfolding around every corner. The alpenglow was the most intense I've ever seen and the mountains look taller than your wildest imagination. My most memorable moments were the twilight walks back to camp as the moonlight started to touch the highest snows and a billion stars lit up the sky above me. There is something about the dim blue light of the moon that makes a mountain look bigger than life. I wish every mountain lover could have a chance to see these mountains once in their lifetime.
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Comment posted by Christina Craft on November 14, 2007 at 8:05 PM
This is awe-inspiring. One of those moments that only happens in a few seconds. Well captured!
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Comment posted by Richard Bernabe on November 14, 2007 at 8:21 PM
This is crazy good, Michael. The image just exudes power! :toast:
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Comment posted by Lee Daniels on November 14, 2007 at 8:35 PM
Holy wow! I feel as if I'd just had the breath knocked out of me. A once in a lifetime image!
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Comment posted by Wade Hardy on November 14, 2007 at 8:39 PM
INCREDIBLE!!! I've been planning a trip there for next summer. I can't wait!
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Comment posted by Gabi Lach on November 14, 2007 at 8:56 PM
Mike, I am speachless! I just sit here and look at this photo and cannot believe my eyes. This is so powerfull and emotional... just unbelievable! This photograph will make you famous, I know that! :toast: :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on November 14, 2007 at 9:04 PM
This must have been pure bliss to witness. Incredible display, unusual to get such a golden alpen glow.
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Comment posted by Arnab Banerjee on November 14, 2007 at 9:06 PM
mike: i have spent months in the himalayas - not taking photos, but climbing peaks like these. i probably know how you felt when you saw this scene unfolded. but to see and be amazed is one thing; to capture and present that like this is another. i am vey happy to see this - it's a long time i am away from the himalayas. you have done terrific job here - looking forward to see all the other photos
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Comment posted by Guy Tal on November 14, 2007 at 9:07 PM
Oh, I've been eagerly waiting to see images from your trip and you did not disappoint! What an incredible image. The mountain looks like glowing heated steel.

Guy
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Comment posted by Mike Veltri on November 14, 2007 at 9:10 PM
Outstanding Mike!! Very dramatic and powerful, and that light, man, all I can say is wow. Excellent work.
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Comment posted by Kent Mearig on November 14, 2007 at 9:17 PM
I was just wondering the other day whether you were busy with working or on a long trip since I hadn't seen much of you around here. I'm glad to here that it was the latter (since for me it's been mostly the former), and it's good to have you back. This mountain view is spectacular. I'm always intrigued when a photo can hold up without any foreground to speak of, and that is part of the reason I like this. Of course, the light is magnificent, and the remnant of fog is a nice touch.
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Comment posted by Ashutosh Rajekar on November 14, 2007 at 9:31 PM
Mike now you are killing me! With shots like these, I am reminded of my own ruined trip. Oh I see the things that I missed! :mad:
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Comment posted by Zack Schnepf on November 14, 2007 at 9:44 PM
Welcome back Mike! This is a spectacular image! Majestic, and awe inspiring. I can't wait to see more images from your trip. :toast:
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Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on November 14, 2007 at 10:15 PM
Stunning, Mike. Looks like I'm not the only one who likes it. I particularly like the darkness that envelopes the alpenglow. Makes for an incredibly strong image.
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Comment posted by Mitch Erwin on November 14, 2007 at 10:19 PM
Mike,

This is just plain fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment posted by Edward Nunez on November 14, 2007 at 10:21 PM
I love it. The dark mountain and sky, with the beautiful light hitting the peaks. Excellent.
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Comment posted by Scott Reeves on November 14, 2007 at 11:57 PM
You may know I've seen this one before (earlier today) but kudos again. At the time I did not know it was from such a remote location. Makes it that much more special.
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Comment posted by Dan Baumbach on November 14, 2007 at 11:57 PM
Very beautiful. I can't wait to see more.

- Dan.
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Comment posted by Chris Chamberlain on November 14, 2007 at 11:59 PM
That is sweet!! I really am impressed with that light. It's amazing how opportunities present themselves. I saw your other post in Man and Nature also. Wow! I am wanting to go there now. I can't wait for more, keep em coming.

Chris
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Comment posted by Dorin Bofan on November 15, 2007 at 1:50 AM
Simply stunning! This is a masterpiece! I like everything about it! Can't hardly wait to see more from your trip! Amazing!
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Comment posted by Kerry Leibowitz on November 15, 2007 at 1:56 AM
I think I'll limit my comments to "wow." Make that double wow.
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Comment posted by Mia McPherson on November 15, 2007 at 7:26 AM
Awesome image and light. I wouldn't change a thing about it.
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Comment posted by Jack Mroz on November 15, 2007 at 8:05 AM
Superb in all aspects Michael. Almost reminds me of a piece of pyrite. Looks like you used a GND for the peaks. The light must have been very intense. Excellent processing on this.
:toast: :toast:
Jack
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Comment posted by Rafael Ferrando on November 15, 2007 at 9:11 AM
Mike, this is truly inspiring!!, a dream come true, congratulations for the wonderfull experience
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Comment posted by Youssef Ismail on November 15, 2007 at 10:04 AM
Mike,

A very powerful image.
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Comment posted by Peter Gordon on November 15, 2007 at 10:08 AM
A very special event a la mother nature. I look forward to seeing more captivating images from your trip..
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Comment posted by Greg Cope on November 15, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Spectacular shot. Love the darkness of the sky, really makes that glow stand out that much more. Beautiful
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Comment posted by Laurent Baig on November 15, 2007 at 11:04 AM
Freaking amazing dude.
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Comment posted by Ryan Shain on November 15, 2007 at 11:30 AM
Mike,


The trip you journeyed sounds like an amazing adventure!!!! I am guessing you used a guide service? I am looking forward to seeing many more of these amazng images. If they are all like this one, we are in for a real treat at NPN!

The atmosphere and feel to this scene is of awe and power. Thse mountains look very unforgiving. One false step, and you are out of luck, but there is a wonderful beauty in them as well. The golden light up top is outstanding and is radiating!!!

Superbly captured!!!!

:toast:
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Comment posted by Mike Horn on November 15, 2007 at 11:44 AM
That is Gorgeous Mike, well capture, such a strong image!!! :toast:
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Comment posted by Steve France on November 15, 2007 at 12:30 PM
This image is not that great. NOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Flippin ek !!!! Everyone has said it all. Man if this was mine i couldnt help but smile knowing i captured this. Beauty Michael.
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Comment posted by Stan Rose on November 15, 2007 at 12:33 PM
Mike, that's just out-of-this-world! The Himalayas are #1 on my must see list, i had a trip planned 10 yrs ago that fell through. This just makes me wanna leave tomorrow. Critique? ya gotta be kiddin me! Great photo.
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Comment posted by Verena & Georg Pop on November 15, 2007 at 12:59 PM
Welcome back!!!
Quite a stunner you're bringing up here!
Top and bottom really frame the mountains well and there is just the right amount of detail to be seen in the middle to really set up these golden glowing peaks.
Wonder what else you've got in your pipeline from that trip...
Georg
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Comment posted by Kartik Venkatarama on November 15, 2007 at 1:12 PM
The brilliant golden-copper tone is really something!
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Comment posted by Peter Carroll on November 15, 2007 at 1:31 PM
Youza! This one grabs you by the throat doesn't it. Very very impressive Mike.
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Comment posted by Tom Perkins on November 15, 2007 at 4:10 PM
Can't really think of anything constructive, but wow that must have been quite something to experience, thanks for sharing.
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Comment posted by Murali Achanta on November 15, 2007 at 7:39 PM
OMG.. this is spectacular.. i keep coming back to this image again and again... thanks for sharing.
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Comment posted by Rick Lundh on November 16, 2007 at 12:34 AM
Get fricken outta town DUDE! This is dramatic, emotional, and just plain superb! :toast: :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by Ed Cooley on November 16, 2007 at 1:03 AM
I really like this image. It really has an impact and the glow on the mountains and fog is perfectly exposed.
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Comment posted by Jimmy Gekas on November 16, 2007 at 2:06 AM
Outstanding! Simply outstanding. :toast:

I really dig the lower line of fog and the hints of fog above.
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Comment posted by Josh Anderson on November 16, 2007 at 10:22 AM
Simply amazing!
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Comment posted by Dietrich Gloger on November 16, 2007 at 4:24 PM
Man, that's what I call nice mountain light. Amazing! And this cloud is the icing on the cake! Great work!
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Comment posted by Jeremy Kessler on November 17, 2007 at 6:25 PM
This is absolutely fantastic, your photos are something to aspire to. One of my dreams is to someday get over there and climb, because of photos such as this.
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Comment posted by John Lehmkuhl on November 18, 2007 at 1:12 AM
Words don't work for a shot like this.....

:toast: :toast: :jump: :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by John Zinn on November 18, 2007 at 11:58 PM
I love the golden glow on the peak!! The thin ribbon of fog is the perfect accent on the lower half.

John
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Comment posted by Bill Fach on November 19, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Mike: Jaw dropping spectacular!! Congrats on the EP. >=))>
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Comment posted by Zack Schnepf on November 19, 2007 at 9:26 PM
Congratulations on the double EPs this week, you certainly deserved them. :toast: :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by Preston Birdwell on November 19, 2007 at 11:51 PM
Mike,

I have seen many spectacular photos of the Knumbu Himalaya, and this one ranks right at the very top! The remant cloud is very important to the photo since, in my opinion, it binds the mountains to the bottom of the frame.

Ama Dablam means 'Mother's Charm Box'. The mountain got its name from the box-like hanging snowfield directly below the summit headwall.

Congratualtions on your two 'Picks'! They are much deserved!

-PB
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Comment posted by Patricia Brundage on November 19, 2007 at 11:57 PM
What a trip you must have had. Those mountain peaks... WOW! Well deserved EP.
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Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on November 20, 2007 at 3:18 AM
Oh my goodness. Like two immense candles reaching for the heavens. What a wondrous moment you captured so very well. Congratulations on the Pick and for what looks like a trip of a lifetime!
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Comment posted by Satie Sharma on November 20, 2007 at 3:42 AM
This is fantastic, Michael! :eek: Congrats on the EP! :toast:
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Comment posted by Dan Walters on November 22, 2007 at 10:05 PM
Gorgeous image! I love the colors and the light.
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Comment posted by Barry R. Byrd on November 26, 2007 at 12:50 PM
simply magical :toast:
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Comment posted by Michael Anderson on November 26, 2007 at 4:45 PM
Thanks everyone for the generous commentary. I really appreciate it!

-Mike
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Comment posted by David Weber on December 1, 2007 at 2:11 PM
Photo of the month! Sensational! :jump: :toast:
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Comment posted by Carol Hyman on December 12, 2007 at 5:21 PM
Congratulations.

Mike, I didn't even know you were on the cover until I went to another computer to log into NPN from scratch. What a magnificent image. Such marvelous light. Yes you were charmed to be where you were when; however, there are no accidents in life, so you were in the right place at the right time.

Way to go!

Carol
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Comment posted by John Klotz on January 1, 2008 at 12:55 AM
MIke that really rocks man! Beautiful light and an awesome capture.Congrats!
John
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Comment posted by Patricia Brundage on January 1, 2008 at 9:08 AM
STUNNING, breathtaking... just an outstanding image. Congratulations on the annual EP award.
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Comment posted by Ed Cordes on January 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM
Wonderful light. The detail in the mountains is also super. The exposure looks as if it were tricky. Good job. Congratulations on the receiving the Annual Editor's Pick Award. It is well deserved. :toast:
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Comment posted by Michael Lowe on January 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM
Congrats on the EP, Michael. :toast:
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Comment posted by Anil Rao on January 1, 2008 at 7:03 PM
Congratulations on being selected as the 2007 ESS winner. Simply outstanding photography!
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Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on January 1, 2008 at 8:28 PM
Well deserved 2007 EP. This is a fantastic image.
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Comment posted by Stan Rose on January 1, 2008 at 9:44 PM
Congrats on the 07 Pick, Michael--for what it's worth i think it was an easy choice!
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Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on January 3, 2008 at 2:45 AM
Simply one of the greatest landscape photos ever taken. Congratulations. :toast: :toast:
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Comment posted by Mike Stacey on January 9, 2008 at 5:25 PM
This one has <b>even more</b> magic than your other efforts Mike. The lower cloud band, which mirrors the outline of the mountains, is a final, delicate and perfect addition.
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Comment posted by Marsel van Oosten on January 15, 2008 at 5:28 PM
Awesome shot - congrats on a well deserved 2007 EP! :toast:
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Comment posted by Cory O'Neill on October 4, 2008 at 12:43 AM
Absolutely nothing I can say here, Mike. Your images from this trip take me from "I hope I get to go" to "I have to go!". Stunning. Simply stunning.
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Comment posted by Andrew W.T. on October 24, 2008 at 5:19 PM
Amazing picture! I enjoy how the top of the mountains have a golden glow about them. This is truly a incredible shot and I am sure it was just as amazing to have seen it in person.
Awesome shot! :biggrin:
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Comment posted by Mark Metternich on January 15, 2010 at 4:37 PM
S I C K! :toast:

Mark
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Comment posted by Cezar Mart on January 15, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Impressive! I recognize Ama Dablam, but what is the mountain behind?
The funny thing is that if I try to put on this picture my backyard mountain Mt Hood, which overlooks my entire Portland cosmpopolitan area, it would probably not even fit on this picture. Its peak would be probably somewhere below the bottom frame.
Impressive mountain beautifully captured.

P.S. I will add that I have two Nepalese coworkers, and they say that there is practically no snow in Himalayas. They say the peaks are completely bare. It pretty much is visible on this image as the golden colors come from the rocks rather than from the snow.
Is it really true from you observations?
Of course, the lack of snow in Himalayas presents a huge fundamental problem for the Nepalese economy as they rely heavily on the water energy.
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Comment posted by Helio Cristovao on January 18, 2010 at 1:33 PM
Wow, wow, and more wow! Truly beautiful. I´m speechless Mike. Exquisite tones on the sky contrasting with golden light. Awesome :toast:
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Comment posted by Anand Narayanan on August 5, 2010 at 4:28 PM
BEST PIC EVER ON NPN.
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Comment posted by Paul DeCesare on April 27, 2011 at 3:51 AM
Mike, I just stumbled across your image on somebody's wordpress blog... did this guy get permission?? See it here:
http://cheeju.wordpress.com/2008/11/27/8-most-beautiful-mountains-in-the-world/

I found it in a Bing.com result page, because Bing's featured photo was about mountains today. When I saw the thumbnail with those golden peaks, I remembered it, searched NPN and here's your post. Anyway, just thought you should know!
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